Artificial life in 3 to 10 years - religious impact?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by davewashere, Aug 20, 2007.

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    I just read this story about the probability of scientists creating artificial life in the next 3 to 10 years. It got me thinking about what kind of impact this will have on religions. If humans can create life, is there still room in this world for a God who does the same? Will the religions of the world condone or condemn this research? I don't think I've ever read anything in the Bible that says we cannot create life, only that God is the creator of all life. Is contradicting the "word of God" the same as sinning? This also creates a possible morality problem. If we can someday create larger and more intelligent life, what kind of rights do we give our creation?

    Sorry, I know I asked a lot of questions there. I just want to know everyone's feelings on this.

    Article: http://www.localnewsleader.com/elytimes/stories/index.php?action=fullnews&id=154298
     
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  2. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #2
    sadly a lot of stem cell research that can cure people has been held up by objections from the church.
     
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    #3
    I have heard the term "don't play God".

    Anyway, when AI and robotics advance, these AI can be considered life. There is an interesting anime called Ghost in the Shell which inspired The Matrix.

    A quote from its wiki article
    Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo#Church_controversy
    Where the idea that the Earth is at the center of the Universe(from the Bible) is challenged.

    I am an Atheist and I believe the Church is full of s**t.
     
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    I'm not sure there will be a religious impact...considering that there are already robots out there that do many of the things that normal humans do...I guess the point would be when robots start thinking for themselves, although to a certain extent, these also already exist.
     
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    The religions has no problem with artificial life cause you don't create from nothing.
    The point the religions are worried are , humanity can go both ways you can use it to heal people , to prevent disease etc and you can also make organ farms for rich and powerfull people of course the second will be bad.You can increase the examples.
     
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    They'll just argue that it doesn't have a soul and say only God can give it a soul....

    Which is typical religious nonsense. Always looking to win debates by providing proof they know they'll never have to actually prove. ;)
     
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    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    Lol, I want to ask them, they(scientists) cloned a sheep, does that cloned sheep have soul? or is it soulless living thing?
     
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    We'll wait and see the clones.
     
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    aletheides Banned

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    Maybe a clone would be kind enough to drop in and tell us if they have a soul?

    We have already seen that the power of the human brain is infinite (focus on something for long enough and you will achieve) - if God created us in his own image then there should be no boundaries to our abilities. This includes creating life, even though it kind of creeps me out.

    This however doesn´t explain how life began - and I don´t believe life was created by accident.
     
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    "Artificial life in 3 to 10 years" They said that 50 years ago too.
     
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    If there is not money in Artificial Life there won't be artificial life :)
    Probably they will use it to create human armies , organ farms etc like the chicken farms.That's the point that the religions are scared of not creating life.

     
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    Any AIs made in the next 3 to 10 years won't be able to even compare to human beings in terms of rational thought, logic, and of course emotion.

    So I'm not worried.

    Now, in 100 years or so, we'll have to deal with a whole load of terminators. Where's Arnold when you need him?
     
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    Where is the artificial DNA or its equivalent coming from? It's to complex for mankind to create not to mention creating a system within the artificial life for it to replicate.
     
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    if the AI's smart enough but have no emotions/feeling, than I worried.
    The difference between human and animals is animals has no emotions/feeling.
    but some of human, lost their emotions.
     
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    It would be interesting to see if artificial life is created and if a different set of religious beliefs and legal laws would be created. Would there be a different set of laws for artificial life based on electronics (AIs) and one for newly created biological beings like clones or new life forms? Would the law give these new lifeforms the same rights as humans in time, right away or never? And how would the new lifeforms feel about it if we decided to treat them as slaves or second class citizens?

    This whole area opens up huge ethical questions. I don't think we are even able to sufficiently deal with tackling these questions right now since not every natural human can be guaranteed the same human rights as another.
     
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    Wrong...
    Animals do have emotions and feelings.. Whether it is your pet dog, or a wild Croc.
    They do express their feelings and emotion.. They feel the bounding and heck, animals do care for their family even.
     
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    #17
    If God is the creator of all life, and we create life, then that means that we would be God wouldn't it? And I think that there's something in the Bible about God being the only God, and that you shouldn't pretend to be like him (I haven't read the bible so i'm not so sure).

    Why would the church object to artificial life and stem cells and all that? Is it morally wrong or something?
     
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    As technology continues to advance, I become more and more convinced that the religious stuff that my family tried to teach me growing up is wrong.

    The ability for humans to actually create artificial life shows that humans are gods, or at least have the ability of a god. I don't know. God may exist, but I don't want someone else to be in control of my life.

    I believe in my lifetime I will see science defeat the aging process.
     
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    god(s) are aliens. :D
    true... this is a crazy though but maybe true... :D

    once, aliens comes to earth... and see that we need guidance, so they start playing god(s) as we know of gods of greek people, like zeus, apollo, etc... they all aliens .

    Than another alliens came in, kick ass those polytheist gods... and now play monotheist god.

    first, they picked moses, human, as their messenger.... set a few laws... hoping to better our life... but it didn't work out.

    knew they make a mistake, so they corrected the law, and picked another human... jesus... but still didn't work out.

    so, again, and still hoping that they can better human life, they corrected the law, picked another human... muhammad... but still didn't work out...

    frustrated... they left us.... while saying... doom those human race.... those race are crazy... nothing can help them. :D

    don't be serious :cool:
     
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    oops... better not eat those mc donald in the front of chickens.
    they will run away crying... or beat me to death cause i'm eating their kind
     
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