Will Bush set the record?

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  2. rodlip

    rodlip Active Member

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    engaging in war while in a vacation, another bush emblem. Nice one tarponkeith. only an opinion beyond the text :)
     
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    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    The guy needs it. When you spend your working days bike riding....you need to go on vacation.

    There is only one way to refresh from the difficulty of work day bike riding......vacation day bike riding!!!!
     
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    WebdevHowto Peon

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    Give the man a break. It is not easy to lie to an entire nation, drag them in to into a "preventive war", while systematically removing individual liberties. I would need a vacation too ;)
     
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    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    I do not understand one thing.

    Lying to nation - I understand, since Bush is a politician and lying is one of the most prominent quality for a successful politician.

    Drag them into a war - Okay, Bush can drag them to the war against Iraq for personal benefits.

    Systematically removing individual liberties - Now this is the thing what I do not understand. Whats the benefit Bush can get from this? A dictator doing the same makes sense. If he has desires to rule forever, he will try to get rid on individual liberties. But what would Bush get from it? We know that his term will end soon. So what is the benefit??
     
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    Tokio Peon

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    Ah, I wish I could afford to have that many vacation days~
     
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    A businessman is better off if he just pays the salary to a bad employee than to let him do something and screw up the whole business.

    Damn,
    Let him stay on vacation till his term ends.
    It would be better off for everyone if he went on vacation as soon as he got in office.

    Who said the US economy was good under Bush citing the stock market?
     
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    http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/01/20070110-7.html

    It's good to know George Bush is doing his part. I head someone make a really good point about all this. Don't listen to what the elites tell you to do, look at what they do. For example, they want you to sacrifice and serve in the military for peanuts, while they have "better things to do."
     
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    Wow that's alot of vacation. It's good to be king, eh? And I didn't even know Reagan took that many days.

    Oh and we all know why Bush is taking away personal liberties... He's not leaving office without a fight!
     
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    Yeah, it's almost two months a year. Too bad the troops are getting about half that.
     
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    I'm no Bush supporter by far......

    But the military gets 30 days paid vacation every year. So for an 8 year term he's taking only 160 days more than them. That's just 20 extra days per year.
     
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    On those "Vacations" as with Ronald Reagan, the president is briefed every day, and must still make judgment calls and also run the nation. He's just in a different location and lets the staff handle more of the burden. In the world of reality there is no such thing as a day off for a president, at all times he is given information. So he takes a 6 hour consecutive break, but three hours before and three hours after he's still being briefed, or is on the phone, or is reading documents.

    At least, that's what Reagan did. With Bush they might just be trying to teach him to say Nuclear. If I had the job you better be damn sure I would have one hour every day of "STFU" time, where I would basically just chill with a soda, or take a nap. Otherwise you start fraying the nerves and running thin. Another thing I'd do differently is I would only use the Oval Office for ceremonial things, the rest of the time I would be in the war room with constant inflowing information about everything going on, watching what was happening and monitoring the news, along with being constantly connected to the world at large. I'd have military advisers around me consistently, along with domestic... and instead of just being shoe ins they would need to work and bring me information and updates - except for my hour off.

    Think about how much work really goes into being president, not only do you have to dick around with politics and politicians, you are also the military commander of the entire U.S. Military, and head of all executive functions in the government... however I guess it depends on the person how they run it, whether they let the generals take care of their armies and department heads take care of their departments - or take a hands on approach and work with everything...

    It'd be worse than managing 200 Wal-Marts alone at the 5PM rush.
     
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    tarponkeith Well-Known Member

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    The military gets 30 days per year... Accrued at a rate of 2.5 days per month...

    He's been in office about 6 years and 7 months (closer to 6 months at the time of the article)...

    6 years and 6 1/2 months turns into 78.5 months...

    A person in the military would accrue 196.25 days in that long; Bush has taken over 400, and is currently on another vacation racking up more days...

    It's not only another 160, it's over 200 days more... More then 2-to-1...
     
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    You're lumping vacation and working vacation days together. Making the numbers a bit skewed.

    I don't know about you but a working vacation day for me is not a vacation day.
     
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  15. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Is this casual personal opinion. I'd love to see what you believe he has lied about an those "individual liberties."

    Kind of reminds me of that post recently that someone started about "questioning" the government, the thread starter continued to prove my notion that it's never about questioning, it's dishonest accusations made based upon blind hatred.

    Remember that post, WDHT? ;)
     
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    tarponkeith Well-Known Member

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    But I'm factoring in all 30 days per year for the military too; which in my experience, isn't the case...

    There were times when we would go on leave, but would have certain things to accomplish as well... So those could be considered "working vacation" days also... Leaving me with less then 30/year...
     
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    True. When I was an officer I was virtually never on leave...

    But when I was enlisted I sometimes forgot I was even in the Army when I was on leave :D

    So yeah he shams.... just like we all did. But when you look at it, is he ever really on leave?
     
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    tarponkeith Well-Known Member

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    I agree, he's never free of responsibility; but then again, the troops aren't either... There's always a POC on the DA31 in case they need to get a hold of you... And you're still bound by the UCMJ and required to maintain the ability to pass the APFT...

    I've tried looking at it every possible way, and he's taking it far too easy on himself (personal opinion)...
     
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    How about the cleverly titled "Patriot Act" - that was a good screw job.
     
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  20. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    I agree...if I were a terrorist or were planning on being one, the Patriot Act would be bad news for me. However, I'm not and I don't support rights of any kind for terrorists.

    I always get a kick out of it, when I raise this point, someone just blindly points to the Patriot Act. As if no one really knows what rights they have lost, but are just absolutely sure that somewhere, somehow, they must have lost something because alex jones said so. Cracks me up!
     
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