Is it rewarding to be a dmoz editor

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by adnan, Aug 10, 2007.

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  1. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #21
    Being an Editor for a directory and being an admin of a site is also an issue of apples and oranges. Yeah, it does not take all that much to get a site going, the process of buying a domain, setting up a shared server, and installing a link directory are all pretty simple, but things can get overly complex then hackers come calling or when you have to deal with irate spammers (the average ODP editor never sees those emails at DMOZ).

    To be more comparative analogy would be "how many mods here at DP also have their own WebMaster Forum". Then majority would likely answer "why bother? I already work for the best" ;)

    Of the thousands of Editors that have been with DMOZ I'd bet very few work with other directories, and even fewer own one themselves.
     
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  2. adnan

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    #22

    I kinda disagree with you there. U make it sound as rocket science.

    So then this must mean that dmoz editors usually don't have a website of own their own then, or it could be something way beyond their league.

    Actually do u know how prone dmoz is to being hacked?

    They use a nonce browser authentication for editor login over a non secure network which is considered very weak.

    I mean if an editor want's he can implement ssl in his own directory if he's worried about being hacked.


    Take about.com for example.

    That is basically contributed articles as well. Well they pay for the articles which the so called guides provide but it is only like $700 p/month or so.

    But about.com is almost 15 times a busier site then dmoz.

    And mainly at the end of an article, you can see the authors own blog or personal site. Just about every author has one.

    So I was thinking it would be logical if just about every dmoz editor had his own directory as well.

    Or maybe a large percentage of them.
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #23
    You can really disagree all you wish, but I have been a DMOZ editor, and I have my own site... my site is 100 times more difficult to run then simply logging in and clicking YES or NO to submissions and writing a few descriptions.

    I also have NO desire to run my own directory and likely never will.

    I used to be a moderator and then an Admin on a forum, but never once pondered getting my own forum until a series of unfortunate events closed the one I was on for an extended period. Even now that I have my own forum, I do it for the community...just as I was a mod on the old site, and community is also the reason I was an editor at DMOZ... not the directory community though, my niche community.

    So I simply can not see the logic in most editors ever even pondering owning their own directory...they are already a part of a HUGE one, and for the most part, their individual niches are rather exclusive. I could almost see a handful of them starting something in their own niche, but not the directory niche. If you've not noticed, DMOZ and the other directories are pretty much in different leagues, which is one of the reasons they are separated here on Digital Point.
     
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  4. adnan

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    #24
    If u read a previous post of mine, the main reason of that is because google has mentioned dmoz in their webmaster guidelines.

    You take that out of Google's webmaster guidelines, all the forums will kick dmoz out of their community.

    Ok, maybe you are not interested in opening your own directory, but dmoz has had what over 75k editors does that speak for a majority of them.


    Also, I'm trying to relate to the journalist example I gave before, most have their own personal blogs where they write their own articles etc, etc,


    Is that not logical either?

    I thought it would be natural, u know something, u like doing it, you enjoy it, why not compile a small list for yourself as well.
     
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  5. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #25
    No, not really. I'm sure a lot of professions have blogs, not just journalists. Many journalists freelance, but then that's generally an issue with money.

    They have their own bookmark folder, not to mention the categories they edit. There would really be no need to take it that extra step in getting their own directory.

    But again, I know that some do have their own directories, it's just that most likely won't/don't because it's not the directory community they are interested in, it's the category's community.

    If you head over to the directory forum you may find that many directory owners have more then one directory. That is because it's the directory community they are interested in, rather then the individual category.
     
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    #26

    Now the process of opening a directory is only a 5 minute process, so your sort of comparing apples & oranges there.


    Tell you what, why not set one up tonight and find 3 million sites to put in by tomorrow evening. Then you will show us how quick it is.

    Come on, a challenge, do one by tomorrow night with say 600 entries in, lets make it easy, 10 different categories.:D
     
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  7. Qryztufre

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    #27
    Should not really be all that hard, assuming they have a bot to auto-feed in all those CNN stories :rolleyes:

    Or maybe a core group of founding editors to promote their own sites & all the subpages of those site. I mean, isn't that how DMOZ started?
     
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  8. adnan

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    #28
    Not at all, alot of writers contribute content to creative commons.

    Alot of journalists contribute their work to online newspapers, school newspapers, religious sites.

    And also most that I have come across have their own personal blog as well where they publish their own work.




    Your making me laugh.

    I never talked about populating it with 3 million sites, but merely wanted to know if dmoz editors have their own directories as well.

    A directory can have as little as 300 sites and still be called a directory.
     
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    #29
    then if its a five minute job, do one for tonight with, well lets half that figure, 150. look forward to it being in your sig by midnight.
     
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  10. adnan

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    #30
    sure thing,

    I had helped a friend of mine open a directory.

    Literally took 5 mins.

    I'm not putting it in my sig.

    but u can check it out www.linksbucket.com

    LOL

    dmoz editors can do the same in 5 minutes as well.
     
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    #31
    Well I am a Dmoz editor and I own websites, but not a directory...webmaster editors are actually a very small minority inside. Most Dmoz editors are actually the average person you see everyday (not webmaster or Internet savvy). The majority is sort of like the Wikipedia editors (some also edit there as well) - not interested in creating a website, but spend time editing in categories that they are interested in.
     
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    #32
    It's blank. I wouldn't put that in mys sig either. If you did not realise, mate, I was trying to tell you the hard part is finding, checking and describing sites, checking to see if they are affiliates, have new material. That's what is time consuming, that's what our skills are.

    Remember it said have it populated.
     
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    #33
    So as editors you already do the hard part, I'm sure alot of you must spend the extra 5 minutes on the easy part to open your own directory also.


    Very similar to so many contributing journalists have their own blogs to showcase some of their great achievements.

    You dmoz editors must have a bundle of directories then too right?


    I don't know where your 150 site idea came from
     
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    #34
    Why do i want to showcase my achievments, that is done in the DMOZ directory. So why would most editors want an inferior directory when they work in the best?

    One can call something a directory with 3 sites included, but it aint much of a directory is it? Not when there is one human edited with 3 million and hundreds of editors working in many languages.
     
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    #35

    Why do journalists have their own blogs?

    I mean there is something fishy about the way dmoz editors act or feel towards having their own directory.

    Does dmoz give you sexual favors for editing?
     
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    #36
    What a perverted, bitter, twisted mind you have. I think if I imaged such things about people I knew nothing about I would throw myself into the nearest river (hint).
     
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    #37

    Well what's freaky is when I asked if dmoz editors have their own directories, all of a sudden there on guard.

    Literally throwing reasons at me of how infeasible it really is to have a directory.

    Explaining stuff, giving examples.


    Simple yeses or no's would of been much more genuine in my opinion.


    Mostly all volunteers which contribute content usually have their own sort of gig themselves u know.

    It's only natural.


    I still stand behind my question, does dmoz give sexual favors for editing?

    Please yes / no

    If the answer is no, then maybe alot of the editors there need to be a part of something.

    Part of a circle, community, something which gives you a sense of self esteem, friendship.


    I would say, open up your own directory and start participating in the directories forum here on dp.


    I guarantee you, there will be alot of satisfaction.

    You can surely keep on editing ur dmoz as well.
     
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    #38
    Yes, journalists have blogs because they love to write... DMOZ editors have DMOZ because they love to edit.

    IS THAT SO HARD TO GRASP

    Seriously... what more needs to be said? They edit on the ODP because they feel that the ODP is the biggest and the best...what else needs to be said?

    So all News anchors automatically need to also have a public access show? All librarians need to have personal libraries, and the president needs to have his own country...

    Yeah, some of these things happen, but honestly, in the case of the DMOZ editor having their own directory, that is simply not the case. The better majority of dmoz editors don't even own a domain name let alone a site or directory... and you'd likely be amazed at how many actually only have a Geocities page... it's not the webmaster aspect that drives them, it's the community.
     
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    #39
    It is not about DMOZ editors, it is about bunch of losers. I am an editor and I have my own directory which is in my signature but I only started that as a result of discussion with alucard (DMOZ editor) and in order to prove that ODP has no valid copyright. It was funny when the moron went back to DMOZ after losing the argument here and marked this directory as non list able as their revenge. ;) :D
     
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    #40
    My you are a very bitter little fellow. You really need to do something about it. I remember seeing a post of yours a while ago and just found it again. This hostility towards those without your world view is quite extreme. You will say anything to prove your point.

    According to this post http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=2710368&postcount=135 you say that you are not only a Dmoz editor but you are actually a Dmoz editall. Well done and congratulations, I must have missed the news of your promotion.

    Also in that post you claim some other bizarre things. Really Julian claiming that being a pedophile is the "expertise area of Christians" is just a little over the top. I wouldn't have mentioned it but with your recent obnoxious behavior slinging that word around your modus operandi needs to be explained.

    And what the hell are you talking about regarding the copyright thing. Is this another delusion or is there some point?
     
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