Adsense Disabled Because "Clicks didn't perform well.." Legal Or Not?

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by Nik555, Aug 16, 2007.

  1. #1
    Adsense Disabled account and refused to pay any balance on it because they considered my clicks invalid because they didn't perform well for advertisers.

    There is no such thing in TOS at all that says they can consider clicks invalid for no perfomance

    and Adwords itself never gurantees any performance to it's advertisers..

    And after all this is pay-per-Click ads, not pay-per-Performance Ads........

    I emailed to legal@google.com multiple times about it but received no response.

    What do you guys think about it?
     
    Nik555, Aug 16, 2007 IP
  2. Dave Zan

    Dave Zan Well-Known Member

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    #2
    The bit why Google disabled your account doesn't make sense. Can you, say,
    post a copy of the email they sent you?
     
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  3. CountryBoy

    CountryBoy Prominent Member

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    I think you're wasting your time. When you sign up for AdSense you're accepting that Google can terminate your account for any reason they deem fit.
     
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  4. yogesh sarkar

    yogesh sarkar Well-Known Member

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    If you really want their attention then instead of sending emails send a fax or snail mail, they might respond to that.
     
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  5. Nik555

    Nik555 Peon

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    No, their TOS says that in case the agreement is terminated by them they have to pay the balance on the account within 90 days, except that they don't have to pay for invalid clicks, and they list a few types of invalid clicks(like when a user clicks on his own ads).

    But it doesn't say nothing about that they may consider clicks invalid because they don't perform well for advertisers, which sounds very strange because

    1)it is pay-per-click ads, not pay per performance
    2)adwords itself says that they never gurantee any performance to it's advertisers.
     
    Nik555, Aug 17, 2007 IP
  6. admin@suckered.us

    admin@suckered.us Banned

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    They owe me over 800.00 ... I too am interested in this..
    I've never clicked my own ads .. so why they terminated my account and stole my earnings I've no idea.
     
    admin@suckered.us, Aug 17, 2007 IP
  7. Nik555

    Nik555 Peon

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    They owe me a few thousand dollars....
     
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    stock_post Prominent Member

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    If that came from Google anything they legal in their court.

    They have too much money and no one can sue them.
    -- At the end if it is web related and Google say so, it is legal.
     
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  9. admin@suckered.us

    admin@suckered.us Banned

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    I personally am awaiting for MS adcenter publisher availability.. with YPN / Adcenter google will learn one thing .. don't bite the hands that is "Don't bite the hands that feed you" and since adsense is google's primary income I'll be happy to see them extinct like the dinosaurs
     
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  10. DonMecca

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    Well, actually what primarly feeds them is the ads they have in their search results. Content websites are only a small part of this. They have like 90% search marketshare online. They don't really need publishers.
     
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  11. Nik555

    Nik555 Peon

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    I think it is possible for US publishers to sue them in small claims court claiming Google's breach of agreement(their own agreement). But you are right, they have too much money and power, and the judge will probably take Google's side. Again, it is hard, but not impossible.

    There are probably at least tens of thousands of publishers whose accounts were disabled for reasons known only to google, we should somehow get together, complain to attorney general or find a lawyer who can represent us and sue Google for damages. We can't just sit and look how they take thousands of dollars from each of us..
     
    Nik555, Aug 17, 2007 IP
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    admin@suckered.us Banned

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    #12
    Make sure you take screenshots daily of any google earnings.. I did before they turfed me for unknown reasons.
    That's about the only way a class action would work.. A few thousand publishers with screenshots.. and then a screenshot showing a disabled account.. I'm willing to bet they've never ever even refunded a advertiser period ever for thier so called invalid clicks either like they claim..

    There should be laws about withholding this kind of information as google claims in thier right to do.
    Trade secret my ass. It's about hiding thier fraud.
     
    admin@suckered.us, Aug 17, 2007 IP
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    Nothing causes a company to sh*t in their pants more than a class action lawsuit.
     
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    PaulMatthew06 Banned

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    legal.. my friend made over 9k one month but got banned so they didnt pay out, then they sent him a check for 200$ for the previous month and he cashed it at a gas station, it bounced and he had to pay that money back aswell
     
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  15. Nik555

    Nik555 Peon

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    that's what i'm talking about, we can't let them take thousands of dollars from us just like that
     
    Nik555, Aug 20, 2007 IP
  16. davewashere

    davewashere Active Member

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    I'd say start a website with this being the main topic, and try to find as many other people in a similar situation, then file a class action lawsuit. Lawyers love class action lawsuits and big business hates them and would prefer to settle in most cases. Just make sure you gather as much evidence as possible concerning your case.
     
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    Nonny Notable Member

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  18. cbugz

    cbugz Active Member

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    this happened to a friend of mine, he tried for months but adsense is a beast. I dont thinks its worth the time unless your out big money
     
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    It's unfortunate that Google has done this, but it's Google. They can pretty much do what they want to their users. I had that happen to me, but oh well. There's a bigger world out there besides adsense, so don't worry.
     
    imsteve, Sep 1, 2007 IP
  20. popnyc

    popnyc Active Member

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    I'm out $3000 and am going to do what I can. The class action lawsuit sounds good.

    The guy on the thread mentioned here is banned, so not sure what happened.

    People who file together don't have to live in the same state right?

    Maybe we should round up everyone interested here on DP and get a lawyer.

    I'm going to start with fax/letter and a better business bureau complaint but won't hesitate to do small claims court, there's nothing to loose, although there might be a chance I could still get paid on their direct deposit dates, still.

    Do you think it's better to start with a very cordial ie suck up fax and letter first? Or go right to small claims court and a better business bureau complaint?
     
    popnyc, Jan 31, 2008 IP