That is what should happen but as both me and you know these scumbags are untouchable mate. He helped to ruin Iraq and Afghanistan then gets made a peace envoy, if it wasn't so tragic it would be funny.
Kinda like trying to spread democracy with the barrel of a gun. Buddhism is a faith, and a theological belief system. The reason why it is peaceful is that it doesn't "say". It doesn't promote, advocate or organize. The entire concept is to just "be" not to be #1. In this regard, Christianity, Islam and a whole lot of other religions fail. An exception might be Judaism. They don't seem too interested in converting or building ministries. Just kicking Palestinians around. Islam means submission (to God). It's an important semantic difference. This is also incorrect. Islam teaches peace through submission to God's will. And as I have probably lived with more muslims, for longer than you have, and spend more time in mosques as well, I am happy to report that I am neither Muslim, nor dead. You're either intentionally spreading a lot of misinformation or there is a knowledge deficit on your part when these topics are discussed. Killing in the name of religion is as old as sex or the Nixon gang. During the crusades, Christians crusaders killed Jews because they looked (by appearance) like Muslims. The Spanish Inquisition wasn't exactly a moral high water mark for Christianity or the Papacy. The organized and structured destruction of Palestine by the Israelis will also go down as a black mark on a religion, when it's the fault of men that is to blame.
So whats your point exactly? How is that related to OP? Whole lot of religion? EVERY religion fails... There is no religion that acts/acted totally peacefully..
Great, if that's your opinion, then you won't mind listing each religion and one non-peaceful act for each. Let's start with Buddhism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism Buddhism is a dharmic religion and a philosophy. Albert Einstein, "Buddhism has the characteristics of what would be expected in a cosmic religion for the future: it transcends a personal God, avoids dogmas and theology; it covers both the natural & spiritual, and it is based on a religious sense aspiring from the experience of all things, natural and spiritual, as a meaningful unity" http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/buddhism/ http://dir.yahoo.com/Society_and_Culture/Religion_and_Spirituality/Faiths_and_Practices/Buddhism/ A better question might be, "Who doesn't say that Buddhism is a religion?" You're trying to hide behind a semantic argument that doesn't exist. Unless of course you can prove what makes up a religion, and then show proof that Buddhism doesn't meet that standard. But I'm pretty sure, and a few reliable sources confirm, that Buddhism is considered a religion by many. Maybe you should go to Columbia University http://www.columbia.edu/cu/gsas/departments/religion/bulletin.html and take some classes on Buddhism http://www.college.columbia.edu/uni...bia.edu/cu/gsas/admin/html/course-footer.html to get a degree in theology.
Ask a Buddhists if it is a religion. While people call it a religion, It is not. I too believed it to be a religion before my sister became Buddhist and I got know it...
Peace can be only in Utopia. Because its directly related to "Justice" and by Justice i dont mean it for a specific religion, nation, school of thought. Unless there is a universal system of "Justice" is not established you cant expect "peace". A justice where there is no discrimination on basis of color, gender, money, nation. Where every human being enjoys same "rights" no matter if he is living in US or Iraq or Africa. Islam is called religion of peace because it calls for this type of Universal justice in which a "Shooder" (lowest in the Hindu Cast system) can be the leader of the nation provided he accept the basic beliefs and possesses the required qualities to be the head of state. If someone slap on your face and you offer him the other side of your face for another slap is not "Peace" To withdraw from your rights and let "injustice" overcome you is not "peace" To fight for your "right" and to fight against "injustice" is peace....
Not because my sister said so, Because that is what buddhism says.. Its Philosophy yes, A life style yes.. but Religion..no. And since it is not a religion, there is no point of argument about it. and apart from buddhism can you give me any example of any religion who always acted peacefully?
Where is it said that Buddhism is not a religion? Besides your sister that is, who has said this? Where is it written? I hope you realize that Buddhism can be a religion, even if Buddhists say it is not. It merely has to conform to the definition of what a religion is. So again, who said that Buddhism is not a religion? Because Universities, Encyclopedias, and even Buddhist websites disagree with you.
http://www.amtb.org.tw/e-bud/releases/educati.htm http://www.buddhistinformation.com/is_buddhism_a_religion1.htm http://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/snapshot01.htm How about we just drop it here, as I 'm not gonna agree with you, and you seem not to take my point. Besides this is actually off-topic. so we should continue the argument which is actually related to the Original topic.
My Surrender? Do you really want to tempt me? You want to argue for the sake of argument? Fine, made a new thread, I can go several pages with tons of links proving my point. Apparently you don't have anything to add to the topic, do you? Last time - Do you have anything to say about any religion which acted peacefully all along. And no Buddhism is not a religion...
Look mate, you already surrendered. If you want to start up a new debate, I suggest you start a new thread. Otherwise, I will stand by many of the world's greatest Universities, who teach Buddhism in their religious curriculum because it is, TA DA, a religion! Man I hate sore losers.
Look mate. I have provided Buddhists Literature, which obviously you didn't read. I give a fuck to what universities say. You dont live close to buddhism as I do and you dont have any idea about Buddhism, except you heard the name and love to argue about matters you have no idea about and since you ignore the ON TOPIC question, not once, not twice but thrice so it says who is a sore loser. As you don't have answer to my question, It is pointless to argue with a man who argues for the fucking sake of argument. Tata
They say when the language of a discussion degenerates to curses one side has lost. I truly pity the sore losers who take a position and cannot back it up because they lack overwhelming evidence and have to quote Buddhist websites, from an unorganized religion that does not have a single voice to speak for it. It is a logical fallacy to conclude that because a religion says it is not a religion, it does not fit the definition by and large. And even less so when one has to go to members of the group because no centralized authority even exists. FYI, I've met with and shook hands with the Dalai Lama, so do not assume that I haven't gotten around when it comes to Buddhism. Heck, I'm even named after Buddha's first cousin. But I'm not even going to use that as proof that my assertions are correct about Buddhism being a religion. I can rely on a foundation of scholarly opinion that spans decades. Given that your rhetoric is unsubstantiated and disingenuous, I can understand how you do not respect the academic community. But please, do not take out your frustrations stemming from lack of knowledge on the innocent and heartfelt posters of the DP P&R forum.
truly said... Dude, I can claim I played soccer with Dalai Lama and had dinner with him. Heck I even spent 8 years in Tibet learning about buddhism if I only need to make a point on an online forum. How about getting back to the ORIGINAL TOPIC? can you come up with any religion that is acted peacefully, EXCEPT buddhism..
Excellent response. I had asked earlier for you to post the specific acts each religion had done to make them "not peaceful". The reason being, I was setting you up to make the point that it is men, not the religion that commit evil. Which is why I don't like the wholesale assault in this forum on Islam. I've many Muslim friends who are honorable, have high character and live with a lot of respect for people of other faiths and lifestyles. People are good or bad, a religion is merely an idea.