Iran Revolutionary Guard to be declared Terrorists

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by britishguy, Aug 15, 2007.

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    Looks like Bush is pushing on with f**king up the world and making it more and more difficult for Americans to move around the world
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/14/AR2007081401662.html

    But of course he is blind to the disdain that genuine travelers have to experience in foreign countries from the indigenous population of many countries

    All due to bellicose Bush and his rhetoric:eek:

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  2. iul

    iul Well-Known Member

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    the CIA has been doing the shit they accuse the iranians for decades
     
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    qwestcommunications Notable Member

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    Who or what gives Americans the legitimacy to brand a certain country(ies) terrorirists?
     
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    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    America or any country has every right to declare another state as terrorist state and stop doing business with, or funding them

    Other countries may or may not follow the declaration.
     
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    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    Smart move, i'd say :)
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    that should put some pressure on their monetary holdings...:D
     
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  7. cleanwater

    cleanwater Banned

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    Not smart move,the war is Iraq is still illegal,any country/person can not invade another country/person based on suspicion,it is no different from Nazi.People should do things based on truth.The us got rid of the previous president of Iraq,but makes the terrorists up there.Now the Iran and the N korea are pursuing Nuclear weapon which they must have learned from the Iraqi war,now the world is unsafer.
    Whatever someone here or outside want to say or to do something to make the war feel good,it never change that:THE WAR IN IRAQ IS ILLEGAL AND NOT WISE.
     
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  8. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    For something to be illegal, a law must be broken....so please tell us, what law was broken? Or are you just upset that more of your buds are being killed by US and Iraqi Forces everyday?
     
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  9. uniqueasitis

    uniqueasitis Peon

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    #9
    Look at it this way. For Iran America is a terrorist and for America Iran is a terrorist. When you have different ideolgies you have terrorists and the term is relative to which side you are with.
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    true....the problem is more so that the leaders of Iran have a wish to spread a religion, whereas the US wants to spread democracy.
     
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    uniqueasitis Peon

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    Same thing! For America democracy is their "religion." Not every country wants it. Hence, if it says Iran does not have a right to spread its religion, then it shouldn't have the right to spread its ideology.
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    democracy is far from a religion....last time I checked countries that have a democracy do not punish women for what they were, when they are raped, or blow themselves up in the name of their god just so they can get 72 virgin (grapes).
     
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    Regardless, I do not want democracy. I want Confucianism. And America has no right to force its ideology on me or else I have the right to force mine on it. Simple.
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #14
    just like your buds have no right to blow themselves up, and kill hundreds of innocent people at the same time.
     
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    uniqueasitis Peon

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    Well if America keeps forcing its ideology on Muslims they have every right to defend themselves provided it keeps the bombing targeted to the soldiers and within country limits.
     
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    we are not forcing them to christianity...what we are doing is giving them a choice. A chance to vote, a chance to earn a living, a chance to live without having to worry about some evil dictator killing them.....but it is obvious you do not want that.
     
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    uniqueasitis Peon

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    Yes! And every country has the right to decide what it wants within the limits of its land whether it be religion, democracy, socialism, etc. Don't you see? No other country has the right to impose something on a country regardless of how good it thinks it is. I think smoking is bad. But I can't force a smoker to stop can I? No. It is his choice. All I can do is tell him. That's it.
     
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    don't you see, this is what we are trying to give them....they have never had that opportunity. Iraqi's had never had the chance to vote before we threw saddam out of office...now they can. The problem is not what the US is doing, the problem is with all the extremists who want THEIR way, which is the way Iraq used to be...
     
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    uniqueasitis Peon

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    I see your point d16 but lets scurtinize deomcracy for one minute. Would you agree with me when I say that every person has a different iq level, less apt or more apt analysis, better or lesser capabilities of judegment? Now when you give every person the right to vote you disregard these differences. Do you not?

    There will be able who will research candidates while others will just go by speeches. Hence, the votes will be varied and not equal. How can you set the vote of a learned person to that of one who has no knowledge? Do you see what I mean.

    Take the example a parent child. Children are nurtured by parents because they do not have the skills to nurture themselves. Similarly not every person is apt to deicde which ruler should be in place. So if leanred elders get together to make a decision what is the harm?
     
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    #20
    The laws that broken are below:
    Geneva Conventions;
    Nüremberg Code;
    Hague Convention;
    etc.

    I write this because i am a human with conscience,and i have a feeling that the war is illegal and wrong,i oppugn the intention of the war,i am sure there are many people outside there have the same feel.
    The againest betweent Israel and Muslim was from 1948,i am just sorry for both sides,sorry for those who is still killing others and who was killed in the conflict.
    If you think i write this because i have buds being killed by US and Iraqi Forces every single day,okay,go on.
     
    cleanwater, Aug 15, 2007 IP