Did Jesus Himself use to say he was the son of God?

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  1. Realm

    Realm Well-Known Member

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    #21
    do you even know why he married her at the age of 9? He was commanded by Allah to do so.
     
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  2. bbn

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    #22
    You really believe it?

    53 year old man in bed with a 9 year old girl who still is interested in playing with dolls? Any educated and uneducated man with morals will strongly disagree with you, him and all others ho believe it was OK. He just deprived a little cild from her childhood so he can fall in sexual indulgence with the poor little kid who's father shares equal guilt.

    Sorry man, I feel sorry for all of you who believe it was ordered by Allah.
     
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  3. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    #23
    We are the children of God by adoption. Jesus is the only begotten son.

    "The devil made me do it." Of course. That makes it okay.

    All prophets cannot lie
    Muhammed is a prophet
    Therefore muhammed can't lie

    ...OR...

    All prophets cannot lie
    Muhammed lied
    Therefore Muhammed is not a prophet

    ...OR...

    Prophets cannot lie
    Muhammed is a prophet
    Muhammed cannot lie
    Prophets cannot lie
    Therefore Muhammed is a prophet

    Oh what a twisted web of logic we weave
     
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  4. bababoy

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    #24
    Aisha's marriage to Muhammad PBUH was ordered by God

    This link answers your allegation in detail
    http://www.iol.ie/~afifi/BICNews/Sabeel/sabeel6.htm

    To make it brief.
    1.Aisha contributed nearly half of the hadiths (sayings of the prophet) hence correcting the misconceptions in Islam for generations to come.
    2.This was the sole reason Aisha was married to the Prophet so that she could get immense knowledge directly from the Prophet.
    3.Aisha was already engaged to another man. Early marriages were common at that time.
    4.Muhammad PBUH and Aisha never had any children which proves all your points wrong.

    Peace.
     
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  5. renie

    renie Guest

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    #25
    That is a very interesting prayer. Always good to check the context. Firstly look 2 verses earlier in Matt 6:7 and see that Jesus instructed that when praying we should not say the same things over again, therefore that this model prayer has been made into a meaningless ritualistic prayer (even given as punishment by Catholicism) is wrong. Also let's actually look at the meaning of what Jesus advised we should pray for. He is "our Father", including Jesus' father, therefore yes Jesus is a son of God. Father means life-giver in its original concept, so he is the originator and the giver of life. Then Jesus asks us to 'hallow' or make holy God's name. What is God's name and how can we have a part in making it holy?(Psalm 83:18) Then he asks us to pray for God's Kingdom to come. Why? because this is the means by which God will bring an end to all the problems that afflict mankind, and Jesus himself has been appointed King of that Kingdom. He wil rule the earth from heaven for 1000 years and undo all the damage that has been wrought both on the planet and on humankind. It is interesting that in our Parliament they open the sessions with this very prayer. It is wonderfully ironic because they are in fact asking to be crushed and utterly destroyed!(Daniel 2:44).
    The Bible makes a distinction between the children of God and the children of the Devil. Check out 1John 3:4-12. So accordingly we are not all children of God.
     
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  6. PalSys

    PalSys palsys.io

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    #26
    So we've established that, not only was he a child molester, Muhammad also said that he molested children because "god" told him to do so.

    What would we do to a man who did and said the same today? I know what I'd do.
     
    PalSys, Aug 14, 2007 IP
  7. atari

    atari Well-Known Member

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    #27
    John 10:30-33
    "I and my Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God."

    Mark 14:61-64
    "But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses? Ye have heard the blasphemy: what think ye? And they all condemned him to be guilty of death."

    Colossians 2:9
    "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily."
     
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  8. alaska88

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    #28
    Muslims will tell you that it has never been proved that he actually had sex with her, she never had any children with him.
     
    alaska88, Aug 15, 2007 IP
  9. qwestcommunications

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    #29
    Lol. We will take that as being truth then.
     
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  10. d16man

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    #30
    so he married her for no reason? why bother? and I doubt God told him too....I bet that was the excuse Mo used so he could actually do it...hes still a pedophile.
     
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  11. bbn

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    #31
    2. ......
    Answer: He could have just adapted her as daughter which would really make him look good for generations to come.

    3.
    A: He showed lack of respect to honor her marriage to the other man. If God wanted to give Aisha to Muhammad, He would have kept her unmarried.

    I don't know of any other prophets being married to so many women like Muhammad. As far as I know for 13, could be even more. It is hard to take care of one woman let alone 13 and to serve God. As a matter of fact prophets don't marry. They come on Earth not to marry, but to deliver a teaching that will help people live better lives.

    One man married to so many women is a bad example to follow.

    4.
    A: Many women for one or another reason have no children.
     
    bbn, Aug 15, 2007 IP
  12. WebdevHowto

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    #32
    I don't know what Jesus said. He didn't write down anything. To bad he didn't keep a diary.
     
    WebdevHowto, Aug 16, 2007 IP
  13. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #33
    "Dear Diary... today Judas went behind my back again and got the red curtains instead of the blue ones... and Peter went off to chase roosters again.. what a fashion crime Judas did though!"
     
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    #34
    wait...
    I think jesus have a blog... in here :D
     
    bfebrian, Aug 16, 2007 IP
  15. WebdevHowto

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    #35
    Thanks for the link, I was wondering if Jesus had a blog.
     
    WebdevHowto, Aug 16, 2007 IP