Why do muslim follow the sunna more than the Koran?

How do you know there were no amendments or any parts missing? I guess your answer would be because the bible said so!

Do you see the point? You assumed that the words of bible to be uncorrupted and true then you went on with your baseless conclusions.

 

Kafer, okay. You seem pretty lame in understanding what I said. Jesus preached and why wasn't he told to make amendments while preaching.

Answer this: Some of the prophets married more than once but your prophet, who slept with many women and is also accused of being a pedophile, saw to it that Jewish women who, after their husbands were beheaded, were raped. Can anybody tell me which prophet in the old testament raped and killed people?

 

Dude, I'm an agnostic and I have been in arguments with various religious people. All of them, when asked for proof and upon failure to to bring it, asked me to read *insert_their_religious_book_here*..
It only proves that you do not have any proof of what you claim, so you are trying to play the same *read_yourself* card.

Its nothing new...

 

Sorry . .I asked you that because I cant express well in english . if it is in frensh or spanish it will be better .
But i have some problems with english , so i afraid to write a wrong phrase or giving a bad image about my religion .

and sorry this is not the only prove i have :
The Quran have mentiened many facts which are happening now and containing many Miracles:
- What does the Holy Quran say about black holes
- Is the Universe Static
- Earth’s Seven Layers
- The wonders of ‘ Yassine’ chapter
- In every number, there is a miracle

......ect

and this is only a part of the Miracles of Quran ..which prove that it is from God .

Freindly

trocobob

 

Now whats this non sense.?
Dilip i knew you cant talk in a civilized manner respecting other's beliefs yet presenting your argument with a dignity. Throwing baseless statements accusing others wont serve you any thing.
And you know why you start abusing others (you have done this in atleast 4 different threads since yesterday) because you seriously lack the arguments with logic and have the "hate" as your only asset.

 

I knew you will come up with that site..

I have been presented with those links many times to prove that Quran is from God..

But sire, it doesn't proof that. As I said earlier, Quran doesn't mention anything in clear statement, but rather a vague manner. That is open to interpretation in many ways..

Ancient Greek/Roman, Hindu Scientists discovered many astronomical facts way before Islam came to life.

 

You don’t get it do you?

What proof do you have on this statement “Jesus preached and why wasn't he told to make amendments while preaching.” ?

How can you be so sure that what he actually preached is exactly what we have now? That’s of course if he existed at all.

Secondly you are getting out of topic. You initially stated some historical discrepancies on some biblical figures between the bible and Quran and without any bases your choose to favor the biblical story to be true. Now you are jumping to a completely different subject and talking about something else. However to show that you are ignorant, I’ll point you to what you've asked for:

From book of numbers:

1 The LORD said to Moses, 2 "Take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites. After that, you will be gathered to your people."…

7 They fought against Midian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and killed every man. 8 Among their victims were…...

9 The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder.

10 They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps.

11 They took all the plunder and spoils, including the people and animals, 12 and brought the captives, spoils and plunder to Moses and Eleazar the priest and the Israelite assembly at their camp on the plains of Moab, by the Jordan across from Jericho.

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15 "Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them.

16 "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people.

17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man,

18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.


25 The LORD said to Moses,

26 "You and Eleazar the priest and the family heads of the community are to count all the people and animals that were captured.

27 Divide the spoils between the soldiers who took part in the battle and the rest of the community.

Read the rest for yourself:

 

Yes . and those science facts was developped and evolutioned until now . but i was talking on facts which just been discovered last years and was mzntioned on the Quran than mean 1400 years agos...

 

Well, find the answer of this question for me, will you?

If it was mentioned in Quran how come these Quran experts failed to discover it and waited for *Real* scientists to discover the facts?
Why it happens always that until some scientists discover some facts about something, Quran doesn't explain a thing about it? but once the fact is discovered scientifically, some Muslim scholar come forward only to say - 'Ohh lookie lookie, it's already mentioned in Quran. WHOAAAAA... thats the word from GOD".

It's my open challenge to every Muslim scholar and experts of Quran to explain the reasons behind magnetism.
I know they wont come up with a solid explanation unless the scientists find the truth.
Once they find the facts, Quran will come to claim it's mentioned in it 1400 years ago..

 

Try to choose your words well . a total irrespect and bad education..
anyway all your posts are not well argumented and you go off-topic .

 

Hello,

I see a bunch of the idiots accusing me of going beserk here and other threads. All my posts are not well and I go off-topic? Oh all you Muslims seem to be parrots. Can any neutral source confirm that I strayed off topic in most of the posts?

 

You will not need to any neutral to comfim that . only read your post from the begening and you will see your "In" and "Out" arguments ...

 

Hello champion of the Muslim cause,

I was asking a neutral source to judge.

 

Yes , you are right ..it is our fault . because learning and discovering are one of the principes of Islam . (Including all the sciences and domains)

so , i admite that it is out fault for not studying well.

 

It's not about studying..
It's about understanding.. Statements in Quran are so vague that even the "so called" experts do not have any idea on how to or what to relate with them unless there are some already proved facts to relate.

That is why they fail to interpret those statements and relate them to elements before the 'actual' discovery..

And when they are failed to relate it, It's pretty obvious they are no experts of Quran, hence everything they say isn't an obvious truth.
Therefore there is no proof of 'Quran is the word of God, and Islam is only God made religion' statement..

But obviously logic like this doesn't work with Blind religious people.

 

Sure seem to be on topic following the posts and the thread in general.

 

Dear muslims

The only way out and forward for Muslims in this information age is to negate the sunnah or at least render it harmless. This will resolve “half” the problems that Muslims are encountering nowadays. Most enemies of Islam use the hadith/sunnah/biographies of the prophet to wage their fearless attacks on the Islamic ideology. The fault is within and must be eradicated, Muslims must realise that a lot of what was written about Mohammed was nothing but fabricated stories compiled a thousand years ago, including the Sahih. You can’t keep attributing countless stupid stories and fairytales to your beloved prophet, it just won’t work any more. If god is truly what you want to please then stop referring to the hadith and if you believe the Quran to be the words of god then follow just that and give it a new modern interpretation and a new meaning.

There are new forward Islamic thinkers that have started to do just that. They call themselves people of the Quran. Have a look on what they say and think about it:


Ahl-Alquran

The Islamic Reformer

 

Sorry , I cant agree with you Kafer , You are contradicting yourself

Quran have asked us to follow our Prophete Mohammed ( peace upon him) , because he explained and complete what come in the Quran ,

If we do that we will not follow the Quran ..

No , that is not true , i think that all the problems are caused by staying far away from the sunna or not understanding it very well .

 

And vice versa?