Life After PR - Yes or No

Discussion in 'Directories' started by workshop, Aug 10, 2007.

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  1. solidghost

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    #21
    Who will be the people in charge of the association if it is formed?
     
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    Jim4767 Prominent Member

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    #22
    This is true. And as evidence I check my stats periodically to see what traffic I'm getting from directories. I have found that several directories' links to my site are showing up on page 1 of the SERPs for my targeted keywords. This includes some directories owned by and well known to DP members. In Google Analytics I find various directories that are sending me a modest amount of traffic. Keep up the good work, DP directory owners! Your products are helping us both in PR and with modest traffic.
     
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    I have been thinking about the idea of an association for awhile also. I think it would be a great resource for submitters to tell the difference between the quality, active directories and the crappy or dead ones. The association, in addition to all the wonderful things it can do could also be a separate body to mediate any issues between submitters and directories.
     
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    Maybe we should start by launching threads on as many different forums as we are members of. I can do Info.Vilsilencer and I also frequent Directory Owners but I think we should stick to one each and then pool our efforts.

    I would also propose that members commit themselves to be Transparent, Accountable and to encourage Training as well as Skills and Resource development. I also suggest that whilst Google will always remain an important factor in our deliberations, we shift our focus to generating quality traffic and that we start working with the Search engines rather than against them.

    PR mania was good for no one. Bye bye PR!
     
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    #25
    I set up domain Directory Masters awhile ago and if anyone is interested in adding a text link to their home page which points to any one of the top level categories on the directory there is a featured link in it at no charge. I am not proposing that this is the way to go but it is a start. However if it should just happen to go anywhere I will hand the domain over to "whoever" and between now and then will hold any revenue generated from reviews, pending a "decision" on what we need to do.
     
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    We are running a basic skills workshop and Directory Masters has been set up as an Association for emerging webmasters who know no better. We have anything from half a dozen to a dozen different people participating and two full time stdents working on link building, patching, tidying up and content.

    Links accepted into our network come with a warranty and will be replaced if any of our member directories dont finish the course. Directory Masters are welcome to join and any links we place with you will carry our guarantee but you are not expected to assume liability for replacing the links yourself. This we do. It costs next to nothing to set up and run a directory and we are making the point that quality is all about staying power. We dont do PR and much prefer dealing with folk who admit they know nothing and who are willing to learn. :)
     
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  7. The Pheonix

    The Pheonix Banned

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    #27
    See this is the exact opposite of what you should be doing, your running before you can walk, its not going to work as its phpld run and from what I've witnessed here not just with myself but with others is that if you don't fit into this gang your all but treated like a scabby horse. Call me a cynic but it looks like just another phpld ploy to get custom, mind you if I did the same thing you lot would blame me of exactly the same. :p

    Edit: Is this you guys here? http://www.directory-owners-association.com/ Just came from the phpLynx site and it seems some group are sending out mails, will come back when I know more.
     
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  8. workshop

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    I think its important to do something, anything. And the more people we get fired up and doing things the better chance we have of pulling everyone together once the dust has settled. I suspect that after starting from zero we will end up with half a dozen different Associations to choose from and I think it can only be good for the industry, in the long run.

    Its just that I feel a lot more comfortable amongst the bottom feeders and make a point of trying to duck the cocktail party invites . I have always found that there is a quite dignity amongst people who dont have a hell of a lot of options. I also have a high regard for simple things like honesty and get tense when people go out of their way to waste my time.
     
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    You think your too good for cocktail party invites, that's pathetic, and you should never label anyone as a bottom feeder that shows you think you are less worthy than others when your not. If you have a high regard for anyone have a high regard for yourself workshop. ;)

    As you said, there will no doubt be a million attempts at creating an association, it takes a lot of money and good brains, maybe that's why they are contacting the top dogs first, then the rest of us as and when. One thing I will say is that for any association to succeed it cannot be seen to have allegiance to just one script, that would stop it straight in its tracks.
     
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    I am trying to give you not just a Green Rep but a Platinum Rep but it it won't let me. :D
     
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    ROFL, There's nice of you popotalk, at last I must have posted something right for a change. Typical I can't get any rep though. :D
     
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    No problem here mate. I always find your post amusing and of good direct answers.

    And remember I am still saving the Black One for a Special Occasion. :D
     
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    #33
    Who died and left you in charge of the "directory industry?" LOL :D
     
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    #34

    I think these owners would be offended, not much, but when you say "Paying out so much money for PR when it now looks sure to backfire shows that inexperience"

    I think the woners did not pay for PR. They probably dont care about PR. PR will be just some sort or brandable status to them. When they go link buiklding they do it to increase their SE rankings and traffic.
     
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    #36
    I have already commented on http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=433012 about a Directory Association so I won't repeat it here.

    It would be interesting to find out how important PR is to a directory submitter. As far as I can tell it's something only directory owners and and SEO's care about. I'd imagine there is a number of submitters who have no idea about PR.
     
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  17. workshop

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    #37
    First off we need we need a code that members subscribe to that will give link buyers confidence. It needs to be practical to avoid becoming meaningless.
    We dont do PR​
    We are long term​
    What have I missed?​
    We already run a workshop. We are an Association and we would welcome input, suggestions and ideas from anyone who shares our interests and aspirations. Similarly we will support and contibute to any initiative having similar objectives to our own
    Not my doing. But I have to wince every time someone mentions crap and directories in the same breath and when we come to the question of cocktails I just dont have the inclination or time to spend talking cricket scores with the boys. They bore me stupid with their myopic views on the way the world works .
     
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    #38
    Workshop, what web directory do you currently run?
     
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    Have a few which I have set up for my own use and which I am giving out to others to run. For example the person who runs the local school library, a restauranter and a graphic designer who works with people who have suffered a stroke and who are undergoing rehab. Have a look at www.bangkokcanals.com . I am afraid that this is the sort of stuff I specialise in :eek:
     
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    Will there be space in this association for "free" directories?
     
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