I posted that link because Bababoy is a Muslim. He seems to be good at cutting and pasting and assumes that everybody wil think he's self-taught about the Bible and also conclude that he wrote them. Why can't you people identify yourselves when you post? At least, I do that.
As an atheist I couldn't care less about the metaphysical implications of any theology; and find the anthropomorphism inherent in a jealous Creator a frail, human notion, no more grounded in an objective, immanent, metaphysical reality than the concupiscent Zeus or his much-beleagured wife Hera. As theology impacts in human beings, here and now, however, I care a good deal. I have a problem with the idea of "dominion" over the earth to begin with, that sets man against the Earth as a predestined duality. I blame such thinking for the utter crap we have made of our planet and its life-sustaining system. That aside, however, turning to the heart of Jesus's message, based purely on his presumptive words, I find it a rather gentle, selfless one of compassion. Agape. A rather beautiful message of thinking of others before oneself. No harm, and much good. Forget the evil done in its name - the message itself is blameless. We atheists, in our smug self-righteousness,* could take a lead from that message, and let be. -*and hypocrisy therefore, preaching "the way" to "those fools" who believe in deity; as if we hold any less faith in our firm dis-belief.
So to all you athiests, where are your origins? If you believe chimpanzees I would have to agree because it would then concur that you share the same small, illogical mind as they do. no?
Adson, please. If you want to go into a real debate, come with your game shoes on. If not, please don't blithely trip into proving the point of the atheists I point to above. Here, I'll pose something. Last night, in the dark hours, when your eyes were steeled against the world and you slept sweetly in the snug comfort of your room: there were exactly 17 green-skinned dwarfs, with 7 purple dots mounted in the hollow of their brow between their eyes; they did a jitterbug on your ceiling, "the Atavistic Abscramble," a fave. But they did so noiselessly, as they have no mass and cannot speak. Only the odd dwarf out, No. 17, sat in the corner, gaining succor from the title, "Alone, Squat, and Green: Empower Your Inner Titan". You dispute this? How do you know? One way you might come to know is to say "that's silly." But that proves nothing, and only merits my sadness - I happen to know these creatures, the Glacous Gremlings, are an old and honorable race of tricksters, and their company immeasurably enriches my life. Or, you might one night pretend to sleep, eyes narrowed, to see for yourself. Seeing nothing, you might conclude they don't exist. Or they come on certain nights, seasons, temperatures, moons. So you try again. Which way you go is entirely up to you. As it is up to you, and you stand to win or lose from your own decision, I have nothing to say about the path you take.
The Bible is the "inspired Word of God." That doesn't mean that God wrote it...humans did, so yes, there will be some discrepancies. Humans are not perfect. It just amazes me how many people want to find all the faults with religion, and then blame it on God...how nice it would be if we could all put God in a box and carry him around in our pocket. Then we could open the box only when we wanted to...
Some of the problem may come from the following, D16man. One, from the Southern Baptist Convention, its position statement: Or, another, happened upon while browsing the site from the compassionate folks who refused to honor their commitment to a vet's family, once his life-companion's name was mentioned in the obits (see http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=433938): Highpoint Church - on the Bible And these are not alone. As many hold that it is a perfect instrument, God's voice, this poses a problem if errors are found.
If you are not blind, You will see i have given the link at the bottom of the page that means i have copy-pasted it from that website.Its funny how you defend your religion by attacking another religion which has no relation to the current discussion. That proves everything.
Well, Bible was the word of God. As long as considered to discrepancies, from what I believe, some priests (or may be non-priests) of that time changed things according to their likeness and dislikeness. This caused things to have contradictions.
It means people are tired of repeating the same things to you only for you to put your fingers in your ears and shout "i can't hear you". Even when people to give you information you simply deny it or temporarily distance yourself from your jesus freak brothers just long enough so you don't have to be associated with the actions of your brothers.
Answer to contradiction 1 When David displeased God by numbering Israel, 2 Samuel 24:1 says God moved him to do it, whereas 1 Chronicles 21:1 says Satan caused him to do it. Also, in 2 Samuel 24:9 the sum given is 800,000 Israelites and 500,000 Judeans, whereas 1 Chronicles 21:5 numbers Israel’s fighting men at 1,100,000 and Judah’s at 470,000. How can these differences be harmonized? God is sometimes spoken of in Scripture as doing what he merely permits to be done by another. Thus in 2 Samuel 24:1 it states: “The anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.†But Jehovah was not the one that moved David to sin. It was Satan, as 1 Chronicles 21:1 states: “Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.†God was displeased with Israel and hence permitted Satan to bring this sin upon them, and for that reason 2 Samuel reads as though God did it himself. Rotherham’s translation shows it was by God’s sufferance rather than his doing: “The anger of Yahweh kindled against Israel, so that he suffered David to be moved against them saying, Go count Israel and Judah.†The Septuagint in its English translation goes so far as to insert “Satan†in the place of the pronoun “heâ€. The marginal reading in the King James Version gives “Satan†instead of “heâ€. Regularly enlisted in the royal service were 288,000 troops, divided into 12 groups of 24,000 each. They served under a rotation system whereby each group of 24,000 served one month during the year. There were an additional 12,000 attendant on the twelve princes of the tribes, making a total of 300,000. Apparently the 1,100,000 of 1 Chronicles includes this 300,000 already enlisted, whereas 2 Samuel does not. (Num. 1:16; Deut. 1:15; 1 Chron. 27:1-22) As for Judah, 2 Samuel apparently counted in 30,000 who were in an army of observation stationed on the Philistine frontiers, and which were not included in the 1 Chronicles figure. (2 Sam. 6:1) We note that in 2 Samuel the record does not say “all they of Israel wereâ€, as it does in the more complete summation in 1 Chronicles, but just “there were in Israelâ€, not using the all-inclusive expression, since it did not include in its numbering the regularly enlisted forces. Again, in 1 Chronicles the account does not say “all they of Judah wereâ€, as it did in the case of Israel, but only “and Judah wasâ€, since it left out 30,000 and hence was not all-inclusive. So when the entire picture is brought under examination, when we remember that the accounts were written by different men, who had different views in mind, we can harmonize the two accounts without difficulty.
Answer to contradiction 2 How can one harmonize the different figures given for Israelites and Judeans in David’s count? At 2 Samuel 24:9 the figures are 800,000 Israelites and 500,000 Judeans, whereas 1 Chronicles 21:5 numbers Israel’s fighting men at 1,100,000 and Judah’s at 470,000. Enlisted regularly in the royal service were 288,000 troops, divided into 12 groups of 24,000, each group serving one month during the year. There were an additional 12,000 attendant on the 12 princes of the tribes, making a total of 300,000. Apparently the 1,100,000 of 1 Chronicles 21:5 includes this 300,000 already enlisted, whereas 2 Samuel 24:9 does not. (Numbers 1:16; Deuteronomy 1:15; 1 Chronicles 27:1-22) As regards Judah, 2 Samuel 24:9 apparently included 30,000 men in an army of observation stationed on the Philistine frontiers but which were not included in the figure at 1 Chronicles 21:5. (2 Samuel 6:1) If we remember that 2 Samuel and 1 Chronicles were written by two men with different views and objectives, we can easily harmonize the figures.
Do U guys ***really*** want the answer to ***every*** """contradiction"""? Let me know Ur top 10 most "disturbing contradictions", keep in mind, that there are NO contradiction, just conclusions that were not researched well.
thanks...and you better start making some better quality posts or the mods will kick you...just my $.02.
boy, it sure seems that every time a muslim comes to DP, they have to post this list or something like it from a hate site. Even if you show them how sad of an attempt they have made to try to show a contradiction, they won't listen and just go and copy/paste another lame attack on the Bible. This is all because they want people to look away from the evil of islam and mohamud.