Pak Parliamentary Secy calls for Jihad against India and US

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  1. astire

    astire Peon

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    #21
    Great to know
    Absolute Bullshit
     
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  2. astire

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    #22
    By the way, if you don't mind, what minority you belong to? Your name Dilip Samuel Jayachandran suggest that you are Hindu, but i might be wrong.
     
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    #23
    His name suggests he is a Christian...
     
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  4. astire

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    #24
    OK thanks. its new information for me that Dilip and Jayachandran are chrstian names.
     
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    #25
    Most of the Christians use Hindi names in India.
    My Mother-in-law is a Christian and she also has a Hindi name..

    But I think you're playing blind and ignoring Dilip Samuel Jayachandran here
     
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  6. Software_outsourcing

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    #26
    Why do u read Samuel in between? Didn't y you had names like Yusuf Youhana ( a christian). Haven't you heard of Farooq Masih or shahid masih (christains tried for balsphempy).
     
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  7. astire

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    #27
    yes, i know such names in Pakistan. But i never saw a such name in India after watching many Indian films.
    For Samuel, i though he might have parents hindu and christian.

    Anyway not a big deal. ....i have no objection in accepting him as Christian
     
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  8. dilipsam

    dilipsam Well-Known Member

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    #28
    What about Dilip Kumar, the Indian actor? His real name is Yusuf Khan. Also I have a friend called Ashley who is a Hindu, not a Christian. Yes, my first name is an Indian name which is of Hindu origin but it has a meaning too. Farrokh Bulsara sounds Mulsim but it's the real name of Freddie Mercury who's a Parsi.

    I have many examples of how name can be misleading in finding the person's religious origin here in India.
     
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    #29
    Yes, that was what i saying that your name "apparently" looks like a hindu's. And thatswhy i asked to which minority you belong to.
    Thanks for the clarification....
     
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    #30
    Do people change or add to their names in India or Pakistan when they become a Christian?

    Almost everyone in the USA has what is called a "christian name" because they are English names. But here it has NOTHING to do with being a Christian or not, they are just names given at birth. (A name doesn't make or not make a person a Christian.)
     
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    #31
    Mostly not, they keep their name even if they convert. Only few people change their names (Interestingly some churches in India give a new name to converted person)

    Some also keep the traditions(such as rituals, prayers) along with Christian traditions.


    Yeah thats a major misconception. People often take English name as Christian, Hindi name as Hindu, Urdu/Arabic/Persian names as Muslim and so on..

    They forget that a certain language has it's influence in certain regions.
     
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    #32
    May be...But the Govt of Gujarath was Hindu fundamentalists led and has nothing to do with India as a whole!!! INDIA IS NOT GUJARATH ALONE.

    The newspapers u mentioned must be pakistani newspapers(Its there duty to do that!!!)

    Ok!! you successfully quoted few names...
    Four months of being acting chief justice!!! wooow thats really great(in the history of pak).
    "We had christian sc judge"...again thats great..happens once in a llife time.
    Danish Kaneria.....hmmmm where is he???? Havnt seen him for so long,.. the only xian yousuf was forced to become a muslim!!! great symbol of equality!!!

    So you agree that..our minorities count twice the entire population of pak and you guys are judging the life of that huge population from comparatively small pakistan and from within your viewpoint.
    Incident in Gujarath means INDIA as a whole is treating minorities badly...and incident in pak tribal area has nothing to do with pakistan...You are thinking neutrally!!!
    Its all up to them to say that...You are assuming a lot!!!
    Your statistics clearly explains wht i m talking about.
    Just assume the life of 2% hindus in 98%muslim populated pak. and the life of almost 35% muslims in a 65% hindu populated india. If you really believe that 2% is safer then I have nothing to say.

    Racial descriminations and religious fundamentalism are there in almost every country, India is also no exception. There may be isolated incidents like Gujarath riots I agree. But my friend the real fact is that...
    Pakistan as a country came in to being with a partition ideology. Its not surprising that they are blaming India for everything. Survival of pak politicians and terrorists depends on exploiting Islam brotherhood and they are simply using india as a way for achieving their goal. They will continue to do that and you population of pakistan are forced to believe that India is not good. They may find out proofs for their arguments from corners of india. thers nothing india can do about that. How stable is the political system in pakistan??? Its all decided by a single person!!! Is that democracy? If we hear that pakistan taken over by Taliban we wont be surprised!!! Heard that ur nuclear scientists sold the N technology to other countries...how responsible is pakistan as a country? Still you blaming India for everything.

    One thing is sure..you pakistanis like to believe that life in India is worse.
     
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    #33
    what about the statement of presidential candidates statements Tom Tancredo about attacking the sacred places of more than 1.5 billion people in the world. What a racist fanatic he is a presidential candidate who does the publicity stunt by harming the feelings of such big chunk of world population.
     
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    #34
    You are right about name and religion thing. I'm not a converted Christian, but a fifth generation Christian. So hailing form Christian families doesn't all the time mean to have a total Christian name.

    Another good example is Vaas the cricketer from Sri Lanka. His full name is Warnakulasuriya Patabendige Ushantha Joseph Chaminda Vaas

    The first name is Sanskrit origin (Sri Lankans are Buddhists - Buddhism has Hindu roots). The rest is typical Lankan names, I guess and Joseph is the only Christian name.

    Yes I agree having a Christian name hasn't got anything to do with being Christian. To give my friend from Pakistan another example, I have Sreesanth who is from Hindu majority but crosses himself frequently in the cricket field while taking responsibilities. That thing doesn't happen in Pakistan and I know Christian conversions can not take place in Pakistan until or otherwise a hindu in Pakistan converts to Christianity. Converting to any other religion from Islam is punishable by death in Pakistan.
     
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    #35
    FYI:
    Demographics of India based on religion(%age): -

    Hindu - 80.46
    Muslims - 13.43
    Christians - 2.34
    Sikhs - 1.87
    Buddhists - 1.05
    Jains - 0.41
    Others - 0.65
     
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    #36
    Gujrat is in India dude, look what happened there.
     
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    #37
    I would advise you to get your facts right. 'Yousaf was forced to become a Muslim' is indeed laughable. Go check out some of his interviews before you make a hilarious statement like that. Danish Kaneria was even taken for the world cup even though he hadn't played a lot of ODI's. Your claims are rubbish to say the least.
     
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    #38
    Absolutely. All these are foolish statements. I don't see any of these (attacking Mecca, Sending US troops to Pakistan, fighting against India/US) happening in the near future.
     
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    #39
    First, it is run by no-brainer Modi. It was actually Muslim terrorists who started (they burnt a train along with passengers). The people fumed and that was retaliation gone beserk.

    In that case, on a global scale see who creates problems. You guessed it right mate!!!
     
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    #40
    Muslims should have not burnt the Train in Godhra then..


    -> A newspaper published a 'cartoon' in paper, look who went on rampage in world..
    -> A Muslim painter painted Hindu goddesses naked in India, and Hindu's were asked to respect his freedom of speech(??).. :rolleyes:
    -> A muslim writer wrote some novels, expressing her thoughts, and Mullas went on killing spree, she had to run for her life and take refuge in India, where she is feeling safe..

    Sums it up pretty much......
     
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