Hey Whats the big fuss about PR guys? Serps Vs PR I think SERPS

Discussion in 'Google' started by designerz, Aug 9, 2007.

  1. #1
    Hey guys honestly were all fussing about PR

    Whats the fuss get ur serps up to the top and the boast

    And dont boast about little things like hey my green bars gone up one gone down one

    Who cares booohoooo hooo u lost a PR update

    LLets all unite and stop these PR threads and let all make the world a better place and concentrate more on our SERPs positioning

    Now thats the real google key

    Anyone agree
     
    designerz, Aug 9, 2007 IP
  2. Jim4767

    Jim4767 Prominent Member

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    #2
    1. For directory owners, PR is very, very important and a source of income.

    2. For others (and you can start a nice debate on DP with this), Google's own statements do seem to make at least some linkage between PR and SERPs — http://www.google.com/technology/
     
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    KingofKings Banned

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    PR is important if you want to sell links. If DP didn't have a high PR, then nobody would buy signature links.
     
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    designerz Banned

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    I believe honestly and truthfully a PR1 site could get a top 10 competitve keyword for example 'dating'

    No relation to PR whatsoever
     
    designerz, Aug 9, 2007 IP
  5. designerz

    designerz Banned

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    If I was to buy link i would rather look at the incoming traffic the site get so that i could get returns for purchasing the links
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    The minimal effect that PR has on SERPS has nothing to do with toolbar PR. Toolbar PR has no effect on anything at all, Never has, Never will.
     
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    great speech, designerz for the president :D
     
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    #8
    I own a directory and I don't obsess about PR. People buy because they find the service effective.

    As far as rankings go, there's no correlation I see between PR and SERPs.

    People think they'll get rich selling links because of the ToolBar. I doubt it.
     
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    cientificoloco Well-Known Member

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    I wish I had a website that shows PR8 in your toolbar... I'd make you a good price for a link though :)
     
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    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    Exactly. I own many websites, and the only site which i care about its PR is my directory.
     
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    I don't worry about PR or Rankings.

    What you should worry about is building businesses that are a success without the help of any search engine..

    Now thats when you can truly feel you've done something.
     
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    #12
    PR is not as important as it was few years back. Now google uses something new which is known as "Trust Rank".
     
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    Jim4767 Prominent Member

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    Just for the sake of open discussion, how do you know that PR has only a "minimal effect on SERPs"? Especially when Google says, "Pages that Google believes are important pages receive a higher PageRank and are more likely to appear at the top of the search results." — http://www.google.com/corporate/tech.html

    I'll turn in my B.A. in English if the plain English of that ©2007 Google statement isn't clearly saying:
    • Higher PageRank = more likely to be at top of SERPs.
     
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    #14


    I totally agree with you. Takes some good content and search engine optimisation to do this.
     
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    Are you stuck in 1998 jim? Do a search, You will see that high PR pages are not "more likely" to appear above low pr pages. Just do some research instead of leaning on that sentence like some kind of crutch designed to stop you falling over from your complete lack of knowledge on SEO.

    There is another thread here somewhere asking why DP appears constantly in SEO and web design related searches even though the pages have PR 0. If what you are claiming was even remotely true do you expect a PR 0 page would appear above PR5-6-7 pages in such a competitive industry? Of course it wouldn't. Your trouble is you quote a sentence, Put it in bold and expect everyone to believe you when evidence to the contrary is staring you straight in the face.

    By all means, Carry on believing PR is important. Clowns like you make it a lot easier for the rest of us.
     
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    Pagerank is useful for Directory owners. If you have a PR6+ directory chances are you'll be flooded with traffic. If you have PR0 but rank number 1 for SERP's they might overlook you and pass to the number #2 listed PR6 dir.

    On the other SERP's qualifies more for actual websites such as webmaster forums or blogs (ex. keyword for blog make money online is more valuable then a PR6 blog).
     
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    youre missing something. dp pages appears because the pages are on the main domain "digitalpoint.com" and it gives authority to all of its inner pages.

    pagerank also can help you in a blog, to get your posts indexed dayly.

    so, i dont care much about pr, but i dont know how are you going to exchange links if you have pr0.
     
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    kazama Peon

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    I love both. :p
     
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  19. Jim4767

    Jim4767 Prominent Member

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    No, but I do know how to read and think and present evidence without ad hominem attacks.
     
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    You are confusing authority with PR. Authority and PR are entirely different, As is demonstrated by PR0 pages appearing top because of thier authority.

    You are confusing cause and effect. The cause of both PR and spidering frequency is links. PR does't make bots visit more often, Links do, Links just happen to also cause PR.

    It's simple. Don't do link exchanges. They are pointless.

    I don't think you know what ad hominem means jim. ad hominem is when you say something is wrong/bad because of a characteristic of the person making the claim.

    "The VW beetle is bad because hitler invented it, and Hitler was a Nazi" - ad hominem
    "The Nazis killed 6 million jews, That makes them bad people" - NOT ad hominem

    I'm not saying your argument is incorrect because you are a clown.
    I'm saying you are a clown for believing something that is incorrect, So that doesn't make it ad hominem.
     
    stOx, Aug 11, 2007 IP