Why Does God Not Communicate With Human Beings Directly?

An excellent point. The fact that Christianity has divided itself to such an extent is simply proof that Christians themselves know how foolish their beliefs are. Too much time spent judging those around them and too little time holding themselves to any actual "Christian" standards.

 

Yeah it's sad. I've watched religious debates where believers were confronted with absolutely flawless logic. They had no answer for it other than that they continued to be believers....

It saddens me to watch people blinded by faith just as much as I assume it saddens them to see me as a "faithless" person. Religious people aren't "stupid" people. I know that they know the things I say here in the forum and have probably even questioned it themselves at some point. It's just that when your faith stops letting you actually believe something you know is a fact is indeed a fact.... you need to step back and re-examine everything you believe in. And that's gotta be tough.

Religious people used to believe that God made the sun rise in the morning. Celestial orbitting patterns every 1st grader knows proved that to be a silly notion but those people still went to their graves believing science is a big crock and God did it.

It's sad to watch that process repeat itself throughout the ages and even today as science makes even more breakthroughs. I wonder what it's gonna finally take to remove the blinders....

 

This comes from a guy who thinks dinosaurs disproves the Bible.

 

Says the guy who thinks the original authors of the bible even knew what a dinosaur was..... I mean cmon, does that even make sense to you?? hahaha

Please keep em coming. I can do this all day

 

God speaks not through the church, but through is Word. (The Bible)

 

The first gospels were oral stories passed down, then they were written down by unknown folks and then rewritten, and rewritten. Mark was the first Gospel to be written according to those who study such things and the estimate on it was between 55 bc to 85 bc. Just depends on who one listens to. If in fact that there was an historical Jesus, no one was following him around with pen and paper to report it. Bottom line, we have four gospels out of 30-50 that made the Bible, we don't know exactly when they were written, or who wrote them, or how many times they were edited by other writers.

You still want to sit there and believe the bible is "God's word" knowing all this?

 

Yes. But not because of what you posted. There's a whole lot more information available through study and research.

Col

 

yes I do...and because we have 4 that are so similar yet so different, actually makes them more believable than if they were all the exact same. Instead though, they are all written in very different styles to different communities.

 

And if you read parts of the Bible, you would know that Jesus gave St Peter the role of "commander" which then passed through generations with Popes until Ratzinger today.

 

OK i'm going to ignore the fact that the bolded part of this quote doesn't actually make any sense in defense of it being "God's word" and try to get back to the point you missed..

I didn't ask how believable they are (that's a whole other discussion in itself). I asked after knowing the many translations, edit, and human decisions to remove basically whatever they didn't like. Not to mention thousands of years. Do you still believe this is God's word?

It's a very simple question.

It also proves the point I repeatedly make in these forums. Believers don't need something to actually be true in order to believe it. They can know it's not true and still believe it. By that very definition the only 2 groups of people similar to believers are the brainwashed and the mentally impaired.

It cannot possibly be "God's word" because it was heavily human influenced, edited, and by your own admission you agree over 80% of it was REMOVED by human beings thousands of years after the fact. This is plain black and white here. There is no grey area.

 

OK, I will bite again, what do Christians believe that you have proven to be untrue?





...... let me guess dinosaurs... you don't think they existed??

 

lets take an example..

You work for microsoft.. does Bill Gates talk to you directly ??

Well that should answer it..

BTW i am not telling Bill Gates is GOD lol..

..:: peace ::..
Jeba

 

Yes, you can take an appointment to even CEO or they do speak to ordinary employees in coffee talk, etc so example was not upto mark.

 

To say that any document is the word of a divine power is absolute folly in my opinion.