Jesus or Mohammed, Who is the

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  1. livingearth

    livingearth Well-Known Member

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    #61
    I agree entirely with your first point. Both aspire to the same God. The evil is in the hearts of men who are bent on seeing that others believe and worship in the same way as they do. It all boils down to the ego.

    However...
    Every place is the place to discuss these issues..
    The more the better..
    These questions are a pivot point of human understanding and enlightenment.
     
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    #62
    How about you pull your head out of your ass for a minute, then go and do some research into Anarchism.
     
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    #63
    Correct. Jesus was born perfect. He never performed anything sinful. However, God obviously watched closely the actions and teachings of Jesus (he was God's only begotten Son afterall). When he died and then was resurrected to heaven, his father would have been pleased with his works. Name one thing (from the Bible of course) that Jesus did wrong?

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    Col :)
     
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    #64
    Jesus ordered a deciple to steal a colt for him.
     
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    #65
    Oh really? Please do elaborate.
     
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    #66
    Luke 19:29-34 "[Jesus] sent two of his disciples, Saying, Go ye into the village . . . ye shall find a colt tied, whereon yet never man sat: loose him, and bring him hither. And if any man ask you, Why do ye loose him? thus shall ye say unto him, Because the Lord hath need of him.

    You really should pay attention when reading this book, A little critical thinking on your part would go a long way to ridding you of this delusional belief.
     
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    #67
    So. Where does it say he "stole" it? Ever heard of borrowing? Did the owner refuse the colt to go? No. If he did, it would simply state so.
     
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    #68
    Ever heard of borrowing without asking? It's called theft.
     
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    #69
    Theft is where the owner does not know you are taking it. In this case. The owner asked. The owner knew who it was going to and the owner obliged. This is borrowing. Not theft.
     
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    #70
    And he wouldn't have known if he hadn't have caught them in the act.

    The fact is, If i went to take something that i hadn't asked to take and received permission to take, That is theft. It's obvious to everyone apart from you. You continuously ask for evidence and when people give it you make a fool of yourself by denying something that is painfully obvious.
     
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    #71
    Jesus knew the owner was there. Notice how he said if anyone asks"blah blah blah" and when the disciple got there he was asked "word for word"? Why did he know the owner was there? Because he is the Son of God. He had the use of God's Holy Spirit. Meaning, he could read people's hearts without even being there.

    I can't see why you are debating this anyway. Aren't you one of the "I don't believe in the Bible" people? You are saying Jesus is a thief. Yet, in the same breath say he is not the Son of God or the Bible is a fairytale. Why do you even bother?
     
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    #72
    Yes i noticed how he said "if", Not "when".
    That suggests to anyone with even a passing acquaintance with language that he wasn't sure if anyone would question the theft.

    I am most certainly one of those people. But there is nothing more satisfying than using someone else's evidence against them to prove them wrong.
     
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    #73
    Well. I don't think I am wrong in this respect. If you think Jesus stole the colt then you go with that. You might wanna get a good lawyer for that one. Got a spare couple of billion dollars? You would need a hundred barristers on your side just to get a hearing before the judge throws you out of court.

    Col :)
     
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    #74
    Well that makes sense.... So because i can't take jesus the criminal to court you must be right, Jesus was without sin and he must be the son of god. This is the kind of infantile reasoning you people display on an appallingly regular basis.
     
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    #75
    Well. You are allowed to have your opinion. You have made that well known around the P & R threads. Of course, I would much rather stay out of the mud slinging that you seem to enjoy taking part of. I will again say this to you "If you don't want to listen, then don't listen." It's quite simple.

    You never know. One day you might allow someone else to have an opinion without mocking, abusing or slandering them. I certainly hope so. Otherwise, times ahead for you is not looking very good.

    Col :)
     
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    #76
    Thanks, I was waiting for approval.

    Is this the bit where you pretend to be a victim instead of acknowledging the fact that nothing you have said has made any sense?

    I would much rather you stop talking. Because every time you make an unfounded claim, Make mistakes about what is in the bible or make infantile statements i am going to have to respond.

    See, You want me to stop listening to you can carry on talking without opposition. Oh how the religious would love that. Just imagine it, Being able to say whatever you like without fear of someone else using your own statements against you.

    If their opinion has evidence, Logic or reasoning to support it there would be no need to mock it. If it lacks the premonitions criteria then it's not really an opinion and more of an unfounded claim which makes no sense.

    I take it you still didn't look up what slander is. please look it up before using it again.
     
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    #77
    According to you. That is very different to others who read what I post.

    Why should I stop talking about the Bible when many ask questions about what is in it?

    I don't want you to stop listening at all. I am saying you are refusing to listen. That's quite different.

    slander

    noun
    1. words falsely spoken that damage the reputation of another
    2. an abusive attack on a person's character or good name [syn: aspersion]

    verb
    1. charge falsely or with malicious intent; attack the good name and reputation of someone; "The journalists have defamed me!" "The article in the paper sullied my reputation" [syn: defame]

    and you are not doing this to me?....LOL

    I think it's time for another cuppa. Don't you? :)

    Col :)
     
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    #78
    If you think someone saying you are wrong is slander you should wrap yourself up in cotton wool and sit in a box for the rest of your life. Why are the religious always such cry babies?
     
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    #79
    Now that would be quite different if you were to say I am wrong and that's it. But calling me a lunatic, fool, idiot and every other name you have uttered. Also accusing the organization that I belong to is coercing, manipulating, recruiting by lying and calling me a liar as well. You don't think this is slander? I have got no problems in you saying to me "You are wrong". It's the other defamatory remarks added that turns it into slander.

    Col :)
     
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    #80
    It's only slander if it's untrue.
     
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