Iran vs India

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by cupid, Jul 30, 2007.

  1. cooljeba

    cooljeba Well-Known Member

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    #61
    Excuse me..for your kind information.. Bangladesh Got independence because of India lol.. If, India was not there.. you would have been still called as Pakistan.

    India Gave you freedom...

    Bengalis gained their independence in 1971 in a civil war with help from India.


    Do you have any idea what are you talking about?? India is helping Sri Lanka in there fight agains LLTE.

    India itself is suffering from Terrorism, promoted directly by Pakistan.

    We Indians are the finest example of peace in this world. And we also happen to be the worlds largest Democratic country!!

    ..:: peace ::..
    Jeba
     
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  2. Idiot Inside

    Idiot Inside Well-Known Member

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    #62
    Wow! you guys think India did a great job doing this? You know how Pakistan and Pakistanis see this act of yours? *you are nice to your neighbors, right?*

    Right, When you do this .. its great and worth mentioning on the boards with pride.

    Imagine Pakistan doing the same 'great' thing for Sikhs to get Khalistan and Kashmiris to get Independent Kashmir.

    Will it be also a great job? And will I be able to mention that here with pride?

    ps. Don't tell me the freedom fighters in Kashmir are backed by Pakistan or so, I am talking about armed intrusion by Pakistan Army, what exactly you did in 71 as thinking you are God's Army and getting East Pakistan free is your duty.

    pps. damn, i am getting involved in to this endless shit again :(
     
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  3. Idiot Inside

    Idiot Inside Well-Known Member

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    #63
    World can see the love of Israel toward Arabs.

    I appreciate Irani people, they are not hypocrite at least. If they hate, they admit and says they hate.

    Not like someone :rolleyes:

    Care elaborating?

    They cannot have nukes because they hate a country or they cannot have nukes because they admit their hate openly and are not hypocrites?
     
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  4. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #64
    Iran has threatened to wipe another state of the face of the earth, i dont recalled India ever doing that.
     
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  5. gemrocker

    gemrocker Active Member

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    #65
    I heard someone say "Americas economy is in the hands of jews". US has always been an ally of Israel.
     
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  6. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #66
    Are you implying that i hate the Iranians although i don't admit so, thus making me a hypocrite ?
    I really hope you're not :rolleyes:

    As opposed to others, ahem, it's not easy to get me to hate someone. It has to be damn personal to me, so i would say that i actually hate someone.
    Meanwhile, Iranians didn't do shit to me, so i have no reason to hate them.
    They do, however, follow a monkey named Ahmadinejad, so i don't see alot of hope for them on that matter :eek:

    And then people furiously ask why Iran doesn't have the right to have nuclear weapons ? Look at gharibe's post. He hates Israel. Hate doesn't do any good now, does it ?
     
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  7. Idiot Inside

    Idiot Inside Well-Known Member

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    #67
    Its matter of admitting or not admitting.

    India has broken one of its neighbor into two states. But that doesn't count, right? lol

    Also, after the war Prime Minister of India of that time Indira Gandhi said that:

    This is the statement from a Elected Prime Minister, showing extreme hate of her towards a Nation.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/363994.cms

    She also claimed:

    But you won't see any hate in this, right?

    As I said earlier, its the matter of admitting or not admitting. Iranis just admit their hate and aims toward Israel. Unlike most countries like Israel, US, India who have been doing their stuff silently.

    Don't worry, Iranis will learn hypocrisy soon and everything will be alright again.
     
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    Idiot Inside Well-Known Member

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    #68
    I was not talking about you, I was talking about Israel and their hate or love toward Arabs.

    I am just too dumb to figure (even from many Arabs-Israel wars) if its love or hate. Anyone guide me in the light of history?

    Surely it doesn't.
    But once again, only problem is they admit it and Israel doesn't. So, Israel can have nukes and they cannot. :)
     
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  9. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #69
    I ofcourse presume that you have conducted a wide survey in Israel, asking the citizens of Israel if they hate Iran or not ?
    Because you seem to have so many assumptions that Israel hates Iran and is hypocritical.
    How can we possibly hate Iran, just because it is run by some mentally ill people ? It's like hating the handicapped people. ;)
     
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  10. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #70

    lets see, just how can you blame India for a civil war that Bangladesh was formed from in 1971?
    they speak a different language than the rest of pakistan, Estimates of those massacred range from three hundred thousand to 3 million, with 10 million fleeing to India.

    if you dont know your history, then dont try and quote it:rolleyes:
     
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  11. gworld

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    #71
    The Kurds speak different language than the turks, I suppose you support terrorist organizations such as PKK (according to U.S. state department) because they speak different language. :rolleyes:
     
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  12. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #72
    do you know the difference between terrorism and civil war?
    the Welsh have there own language and country but not 100% own laws or rule. i dont see any welshmen strapping on bomb vests and blowing up a sheep market do you?
    now run along little boy and play with your train set. Lego might to to complex
     
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  13. dilipsam

    dilipsam Well-Known Member

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    #73

    Then why can't India get freedom for Kashmir? Pakistan pre-1971 was divided on a Linguistic basis, the West speaking the Urdu/Hindi/Punjabi, and the East speaking Bangladeshi and the West was given more preference. India herself though liberated from the Britian's rule seems to inherited the British policy of divide and rule policy and we made use of the differences between West and East Pakistan. But i regret that. If we play a match against Pakistan, then Bangladeshis support Pakistanis and vice versa.

    Liberation? What non-sense!!! India got bashed or thrashed by the Chinese. If we could liberate Bangladesh from Pakistan, why couldn't we save ourselves???? Now damn to this nationalistic posting!!!
     
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  14. dilipsam

    dilipsam Well-Known Member

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    #74
    Bullshit!!! India actaully sponsored terrorism in Sri Lanka. Their terrorist leader is an Indian settled in their jungle. What a double-timing statement. Forget the stupid Pakistanis, what did we do to Sri Lanka? Believe in karma???????
     
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  15. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #75
    It is interesting that some one this stupid can even imagine that she is smart. :rolleyes:

    Kurds live in Turkey, they are an ethnic group with their own language that desire to separate from Turkey. They are engaged in Arm struggle against government of Turkey and actually are not known for using suicide bombers.

    So why is it that PKK is a terrorist organization while Kurds in Iraq were freedom fighter when they fought against Saddam? Why Bangladesh is OK but not a Kurdistan in Turkey? :rolleyes:

    Your post is just a nonsense of making stupid excuses to justify and classify some groups as terrorist while supporting others.
     
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  16. Idiot Inside

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    #76
    I am not blaming India for civil war, Civil war was merely due to our selfish politicians.

    India just did the lamest character of opportunist, and fed oil to the fire of civil war, first they send their terrorists in form of Mukti Bahini (Liberation Army) and when civil war was on full bloom, they sent their Army yo East Pakistan to help them to get freedom (yes, like US they also thought they are God's Army).

    Not every civil war ends in form of division of a country, but this civil war ended in division just because of India.

    So, India is not responsible for civil war but India sure is responsible of division of Pakistan. No matter what Indians say here, I know they feel happy for it. Everyone heard what their Prime Minister said after war.

    pia, i guess you get idea why I blame India and for what I blame.

    I confirm that. My friend did Mechanical Engineering from Islamic University, Dhaka and during his 4 years stay there he shares a lot of such stories.
     
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  17. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #77
    you dont see the Estimates of those massacred range from three hundred thousand to 3 million, with 10 million fleeing to India as a form of genocide that India stepped in to put an end to? the 1 million women and young girls raped, a crime against humanity that India had an obligation to stop?

    to prevent that happening again, then it is sometimes better to divide a nation, and as the Bengali's had been asking for it from the 1960's then it was something that was not going to be resolved in any Diplomatic talks
     
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  18. Idiot Inside

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    #78

    Well India opened its borders for refugees itself. They were not forced to, they just did on-purpose of taking the civil war to next level.

    Same thing is happening in Kashmir, they want freedom since 1948, why they are suppressing freedom fighters there with force? Where humanity is gone now?

    Mate, as I said every civil war doesn't end in division. So, that matter could be solved by whatever method Pakistan feel necessary, diplomatic talk or force.
    Every country have always been suppressing freedom fighters and using force to unite the nation, an example is of Abraham Lincoln.

    You mentioned they were asking for freedom since 1960, do you think 11 years are really too much? If so, Kashmiris have been asking for freedom for 60 years now. What about them?

    India just wanted revenge of Muslim rule of 1000 years on sub-continent and division of sub-continent into Pakistan and India. And this is what their prime minister admitted later on.

    If it was their love toward humanity, prime minister had not said all that :rolleyes:

    Also, where this love for humanity goes when Kashmiri asks for freedom? lol
     
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  19. samantha pia

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    #79
    Well India opened its borders for refugees itself. They were not forced to, they just did on-purpose of taking the civil war to next level.
    maybe it was to stop the Pakistani army from killing another 3 million of them and raping another million women and young girls.

    Mate, as I said every civil war doesn't end in division. So, that matter could be solved by whatever method Pakistan feel necessary, diplomatic talk or force.
    whatever method Pakistan feel necessary, they killed upto 3 million and raped upto a million women and young girls.
    you think thats right? if so you are sick

    now geographically Pakistan and Bangladesh are divided by 1,600 kilometres (1,000 mi) of India, so to claim that they wanted to be independent because they were not getting a fair share of funds from the then government sounds good reason for civil war.
     
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  20. Idiot Inside

    Idiot Inside Well-Known Member

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    #80
    No. your "maybe" doesn't hold any life. I quoted the statement of their prime minister of that time. Is that not enough to understand what India wanted? Or should I repeat that statement?

    yes, their claim was right to some extent and it can be a good reason of civil war as well.
    But again, India was the resposible for taking civil war to next level by sending their terrorist as Mukti Bahini, and then again responsible for division of a neighbor by sending Army.

    And its clear from the statement of their prime minister which you are ignoring.


    What I am saying is only that, Indian history is not as clean and peaceful as some people and you are trying to present here.

    In 60 years of independence.

    * India have had war a number of wars with Pakistan
    * India have had one war with China
    * India have had a couple border conflicts and disputes with Bangladesh
    * Many claims India have been supporting (not at govt. level, but internally) Tamil Tigers (terrorists in Sri Lanka.
    Even, an Indian PM was arrested on supporting Tigers. Obviously, he was not the single supporter, many must be unrevealed and so unarrested.

    * To throw some light on Indian relation with 1/3 of neighbors in one line.

    http://www.asthabharati.org/Dia_Jan.04/India-mai Sahadevan.htm

    Also, India's Boundary Disputes with China, Nepal, and Pakistan

    Let alone Pakistan, do you think every other neighbor of India is also retard?

    If 4 different people (Pakistan, China, Bangladesh, Nepal) are having conflict with one guy (India) on same type of thing (boundary), then their are high chances that one guy is wrong and four guys are right.

    Instead of simply focusing Indian relation with Pakistan and their lame character in 1971, I tried to put some light on India's relations (both past and present) with other neighbors as well.

    In short, India is NOT as peaceful as you think it is. Period.
     
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