Hey Libs! I have some questions for you!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by chulium, Aug 4, 2007.

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    1) The modern American "peace movement" is responsible for the deaths of far more people than the U.S.-involved wars its members have protested over the past half century. Why then are so many Americans still convinced that going to war is the worst thing our country can do?

    2) Over the course of its existence, our planet has been much colder and much warmer than it is today, having endured periodic ice ages and various cataclysmic natural events. That being the case, why would anyone choose to believe that human beings are responsible for the earth's most recent, and relatively mild, climatic shift?

    3) The Bush doctrine of preemptive warfare would - in all likelihood - have saved tens of millions of lives had it been implemented against Nazi Germany prior to Hitler's invasion of Poland in 1939. So why do human rights activists today insist that stopping Islamofascists from acquiring nuclear weapons isn't worth the cost in human life?

    4) Monetary transactions between private citizens are what fuel our economy. The government taxes private citizens, thereby removing money from the economy. Since economic growth is dependent upon increased monetary transactions within the private sector, why do Democrat lawmakers routinely propose raising taxes, especially on those citizens who invest the most money in our economy?

    5) The word viable - as it applies to human beings - means capable of life or normal growth and development. An unborn human being during every stage of gestation is clearly alive and capable of normal development, unless he or she is genetically predisposed to abnormal growth or is hindered in some way from developing naturally by an external force. That being the case, why do some people argue that unborn human beings are non-viable during the earliest stages of their development, and therefore, appropriate candidates for abortion?

    6) The Geneva Conventions' protocols relative to the treatment of prisoners of war, were created for the purpose of holding the signatories of the various treaties which make up those Conventions to a certain moral standard of behavior during times of war. Any entity, be it a nation, group, or individual, that does not adhere to the standards set forth therein, is not subject to the Conventions' protections under international law. How then can one justify affording such protections to terrorists, who ignore all of the aforementioned behavioral standards?

    Oh, and one last thing...

    7) If George W. Bush is as stupid as so many liberals claim, how did he manage to steal an election, mastermind 9/11, cover up his administration's involvement in that event after the fact, con practically every Congressional Democrat into going to war with Iraq just so he could further enrich his cronies in the oil industry, single-handedly destroy every American's civil rights via the Patriot Act, and then steal a second election on top of all that? And if he's really an evil genius, which he'd surely have to be to get away with even half of those things, why aren't his primary political adversaries in prison on trumped-up criminal charges right now... or dead?






    I expect lame, unstable, and senseless answers to all of them :) Since that's all you can ever conjure up anyway...

    And I won't lie; I didn't write this... source: http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/08/03/a-few-questions-for-liberals/
     
    chulium, Aug 4, 2007 IP
  2. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    These are so dumb I just can't resist

    how is the peace movement responsible?

    Because people who study climate for a living think that people are at least partially responsible as do pretty much all government officials including George Bush, and also the military believes it.

    There is pretty clear evidence that people are at least a partial cause, feel free to look it up

    Please enlist so it will cost your life, not a normal persons

    because they have to pay back the loans run up by the republicans

    who cares? there are too many people anyway

    Because we are the good guys , we have higher standards and a morale code

    thats just conspiracy theory nonsense, except for the part about enrich himself and his cronies through war spending

    chulium, I think your mom is calling she said you haven't cleaned your room
     
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  3. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #3
    ferret77, if you bothered to read atleast half of what is written here, you'd notice that it was not written by chulium.
    Good post, anyhow. Quite amusing!
     
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  4. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    #4
    If you had taken the time to read the reply you will see that ferret77 didn't say that he did.
     
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  5. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #5
    If you look closely at this sentence:
    It could be understood as an attack on chulium for 'supposedly' writing these questions, when all he actually did is copy paste here for a discussion.
    But hey, i may be wrong :D
     
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  6. mistermix

    mistermix Active Member

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    chulium, don't you feel stupid?

    All you're doing is ranting on about serious issues as if you are talking about your favorite sports team.

    Those damn red socks suck! those pesky protesters aren't they funny!! bush is great - he saved millions of lives - yipee!! how about taxation - aint that a bummer!

    don't get me started on global warming - it sucks!!

    blah blah


    Please stop watching the news.
     
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  7. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #7
    After reading your reply, I'm not sure you are qualified to make such a statement.

    I'd love to take the time to correct ferret's post (it's filled with assumptions and inaccuracies), but since he is one of those people that believes he is responsible for something that he can't prove, I'd prefer to just let him and al gore take the blame.

    Anyone know if gore has actually done anything about his own personal contributions to "global warming?"
     
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  8. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    who cares he's one person, honestly what difference does that make really?

    have any of bush family signed up to fight in george's war?
     
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  9. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    LOL! See what I mean?

    Still looking for others to serve your country for you? Typical liberal.
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    The right only get offended by hypocrisy on trivial matters. If the hypocrisy involves people being sent off to war while the proponents of this war are sitting safe and sound in their mansions sipping on their brandy it doesn't bother them.
    But if you drive a car while talking about global warming they get all offended.

    It's part of being an irrational coward lunatic.
     
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  11. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    al gore had sex with his wife ..... with the lights on!
     
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  12. tarponkeith

    tarponkeith Well-Known Member

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    #12
    I'm an independent, but I'll throw in a few pennies worth...

    Our soldiers should not be put into harms way unless it is absolutely necessary... Too many american's are growing up in the "nintendo age", and don't fully understand that when you're dead, you're dead... There's no reset button...

    One should also ask themselves, is the US responsible for freeing other countries and spreading democracy? When did we become the world police?

    Also, when troops are sent, they should be sent with specific instructions and plans... The reason for military action should also be public knowledge, and should be based more then accusations and possibilities...

    Personally, I don't care if "global warming" exists, or if "climate change" is because of humans; but whether it's nature, or man made, we should be trying to figure out if it's a threat, and if there's anything we can do to alleviate the threat...


    What an assumption; saved tens of millions of lives? By protecting the middle east from a ruthless dictator that had stockpiles of 13 year old sarin gas? I'd like to see a single scholarly source that claims Bush's actions could have saved millions...


    I've got far too many opinions and ideas to list... But our entire tax system is messed up; and both parties are to blame... Lately republicans have been spending like democrats too...

    Hmm... My personal opinion... Harvard ad hoc 1968 is a great way of looking at it... higher brain function; is a person producing brainwave patterns? If so, they have a claim to personhood... a fetus doesn't emit brainwaves until week 24-29... I'm against abortion after the first term, but before that should be legal...

    A lot of this argument is too personal for most people though; why not leg the states decide... then if you agree with pro-life, move to a pro-life state, otherwise, move to a pro-choice state...

    I have my own opinions on this, but don't wish to discuss it... I'll just say that there are good arguments both ways on this topic...

    I don't like this question; it's riddled with sarcasm and targets the lack of credibility held by implausible conspiracy theories to prove a point.

    And I don't like the term "stupid"...

    I don't believe he's stupid... There's plenty of things that he IS, but probably not stupid...
     
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  13. inferno3387

    inferno3387 Banned

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    Liberals are a bunch of pussies anyway, they wont answer those questions, they will just try to avoid them.... :)
     
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    login Notable Member

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    Responsible in what way? How many deaths are they responsible for and how many deaths are the U.S.-involved wars responsible for?

    You should also ask republicans for this because numerous republicans agrees with libs in global warming issue.

    This statement is not true, nobody wants terrorists to have nuclear wepons.

    Because people are different and some people are depending of GOOD public health care, public schools and so on.

    That, my friend, is a very good question.

    Because we have to hold a much better standard and not allow ourself to sink into that low moral of the terrorists. We must be better than the terrorists in any way!!

    :D:D
     
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  15. chulium

    chulium Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for answering the questions in exactly the way I expected...
     
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    And why did you ask if you know the answers? You did not think to much about this did you? just grabbed some questions from a web site trying to make a point.

    can you please answer my questions: "Responsible in what way? How many deaths are they responsible for and how many deaths are the U.S.-involved wars responsible for?" If you can answer that you show that you have an aim.
     
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  17. earlpearl

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    Why is the Bush administration and its supporters so anti-studying and confronting the global warming/climate change issue....which was initially supported by scientists? (financial supporters

    What made study of this issue and review of the consequences something that Bush has so strongly blocked financial supporters

    When did protecting the air and water become such a partisan issue financial supporters

    Why is this a "liberal issue" as Chulium suggests bush financial supporters

    This is a prime example of subverting potential problem solving by partisanship and giving it a label when the real disagreement with the issue is Bush financial supporters
     
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  18. Brandon Sheley

    Brandon Sheley Illustrious Member

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    seems like a troll post to me, but then again all the threads in the P&R forums are all BS fights anyways ;)
     
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  19. davewashere

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    #19
    I'll take a bite at this troll-bait:
    "2) Over the course of its existence, our planet has been much colder and much warmer than it is today, having endured periodic ice ages and various cataclysmic natural events. That being the case, why would anyone choose to believe that human beings are responsible for the earth's most recent, and relatively mild, climatic shift?"

    Over the course of its existence, our planet has also seen billions of years with no life on it. Of course, people like our president don't believe that, because they were taught our planet is 6,000 years old. Our planet is always changing, there's no stopping that. It's the rate of change that concerns most scientists. Our planet has been changing at an unusually high rate despite the lack of a triggering event, such as a major volcanic eruption or an impact with a large meteor.

    I'd also like to see some supporting evidence for the peace movement being responsible for more deaths than US-involved wars.
     
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  20. chulium

    chulium Well-Known Member

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    Think: if we went to war against Osama bin Laden in 1997 when he declared war on us (Clinton kindly ignored it), we would not have lost the lives of nearly 3K Americans 4 years later. That's just one example...

    I've been considering it.

    People = expendable particles. Got it. Then why are you so much against the war "killing so many innocent people"?

    Debate is a sport, my fiend! These are serious questions and so far with no serious answers, I'm happy to say that I am not taking this lightly like some.

    Done! Now do the same.

    This is true, however I don't think it's fair to say that the soldiers that have died for this country deserve to be called "nintendo-washed," if you know what I mean. Our troops fully understand their situation and to think that you, yourself, are more informed about their situation than they are is...... pathetic, at least.


    Ah, good idea! That way everybody can know what our military is up to, so we know exactly why they're doing what they do! No dissent... excellent idea.

    Oh wait. Haha, our enemy is part of "everyone" though. Hmm...

    You know, I'm really glad you have no power in our military.

    We all know scholars don't have opinions... so that would be good indeed. -_-


    As a side note, this is interesting:
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    I concede the point.



    Part two comin' up. I'm on vacation now... so I'm a bit busy! Sorry if I can't get back to these questions right away or with very good answers :(
     
    chulium, Aug 6, 2007 IP