How to Foster Anti-War Sentiment among Americans

I just did but you find it amusing.......

There are lots more examples I could give but as you are here just to prop up the GTech cause I will leave you and your childish behaviour.

Are these amusing for you too? - http://www.antiwar.com/news/?articleid=2444

 

Yes, because you failed to read, perhaps..

 

Let's recap. The question was:

Your arguments fail to address this, not unlike gworld has failed to address such. There were a handful of people that were involved in Abu. They were charged, tried and found guilty and are serving time behind bars. That's the difference between the people I support and who you support. If the military condoned such, none of the people you referenced would be having trials and locked away serving hard time.

While you attempt to present such, to reflect as a policy on the whole, you actually discredit your own assertion in that the military does not tolerate such and does actively seek out those who break the law and punish them. The same cannot be said for your brethren who torture. In fact, while "our" (not your) military holds the highest standards and actively prosecute those that break the law and do such things, they also have to go after your brethren who do the same.

Like a good servant, he's always there to lend support when his "brethren's" actions are in question. And he has the nerve to call Blair a lap dog

 

It's quite amusing to see you, gworld, for the last 4 pages in this thread, avoiding the questions that were addressed to you.
It's not the first time you avoid questions, and it's not only one member in DP that thinks like that, either.
How about discussing, for a change ?
It would be nice to actually understand all your points of view on different subjects, without this mask you always seem to put up.

 

The fact the acts have been committed is bad enough but you wish to excuse it because they have been caught - think of all the others that haven't....

Is Guantanamo Bay in the US enough for you - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14936-2004Dec20.html

Not to mention the secret CIA flights.

 

This is simply another falsehood. You are excusing your brethren's behavior. The handful that were involved on the US side were tried an punished.

Of course, you've still failed at every attempt to adhere to the original request...anything by the US in the US.

Nope, it's not good enough. Why? Because it was merely an allegation and also does not fit the original criteria of the question presented. Interrogation methods used on your brethren have been widely documented, including being forced to listen to Britney Spears and the infamous "belly slap." Oh, the outrage!

Keep trying.

 

LOL that's a funny one.

Of course he's a lap dog, he's a lot more than that he's a terrorist along with your dumbass sweetheart Dubya.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/italy/story/0,12576,1514376,00.html

Not only the employees of Federal government have become criminals but USA as a nation has to deny extradition treaties with it's own allies to protect criminals.

It is a disgrace to U.S.A reputation acting like a rouge state, involved in criminal activity. That is what webmaster doesn't understand, our countries in North America is not and should not be another India or Libya.

 

Webmaster, although a thoroughly nice chap is just following GTech's orders mate, we cannot blame him entirely although I see what you are saying.

 

*Sigh* Gworld Gworld Gworld...
First you claim that US is torturing and executing prisoner in Police Custody in the US. And when asked to give a case link of such, first you try to divert the discussion to my origin claiming I wouldn't understand..
And after two days of desperate effort to get something to back your claim, you came up with two news snippets, invloving SUSPECTED CIA AGENTS?

Ahh come on, I know you are much clever than that. CIA is known for such activities since the cold war era.

How does that make Bush different than any other president?

Blah blah blah U.S. Constitution Blah blah blah The Webmaster blah blah blah India Blah Blah..

Good work, you got A+.
You have proved that you have nothing to back your claims. You can go and sleep now..

 

Does it not bother you that people are being illegally held at a Guantanamo Bay for over 2 years and then released without charge?

Would you like it if someone held you for 2 years with no evidence? Would you like it if you were a Muslim and someone tried to force feed you pork?

Only one person has been convicted at Guantanamo Bay and he was sentenced to 9 months in jail......despite being held for 15 months in Guantanamo Bay.

Is this really justice? Being charged by a military tribunal (after waiting 2 years +) and not seeing the evidence etc.. being used against you. The US calls itself a democracy, yet these people aren't even given a proper trial. Is this not mental torture in it's worst form.

 

Yes it bothers me..
But does it bother you that people released from Gitmo pick up arms and start kidnapping and killing engineers?

 

Yes, that bothers me too. It bothers me because these people were once normal people and became extremists because of the US government. Before they were imprisoned (wrongly) they would not have dreamed of doing this but as they were held illegally without trial for 2 years of their life it does not surprise me at all that they pick up arms.

Would you not want revenge on your captors if you were imprisoned for 2 years without trial, abused by your captors and then told there was no evidence for holding you???

 

I find this bullshit, only a criminal mind would pick the arms for revenge..
If everyone imprisoned wrongly would have picked up the arms, Mahatma Gandhi and Nelson Mandela (and many others) would have been the most dangerous terrorists..

I have answered this question earlier..
No, I would not go for violence at any cost, because I'm not a killer period.

 

What Police do you mean? NYPD, LAPD or your local Sheriff?

Who said anything about POLICE? My post was about BUSH and THIS ADMINISTRATION. That is the problem when someone discusses things with an Indian who doesn't even know that POLICE is under control of city and state government which doesn't have anything to do with FEDERAL government that BUSH is in charge of. U.S. government is responsible for it's action no matter where it is committed. Are you saying that Bush and this administration should act like criminals outside of USA, to avoid prosecution and that is OK with you?

Like I said go read the U.S. Constitution, learn about the culture in North America and our form of government before assuming that we are just another India or wish us to become another India.

Decent people are against any form of laws that permits imprisonment without charges or torture. Honorable people do not like their government to act as rouge state and be subject to extradition requests for acting like criminals but I can understand that above are no problem for you.

 

Not everyone like you define their mission in life, to go around to find a big A*s to kiss. Some people actually get upset to be imprisoned without charges, be tortured or see their family get killed.

 

Yes, I'm not denying that.. There are plenty of criminals around with killing as the only motive.. No matter they put them in prison without charges or not, they would find another excuse for their acts, and supporters like you...

 

No, not at all. They shouldn't have been trying to secure 72 virgins in the first place. Many of those that were captured and later released, because they were simply low level players, have gone back to commit additional crimes. Some have committed suicide attacks, participated in the planning of bombings.

Some have gone on create a video, called "Road to Guantanamo," in which they claim "innocence" and "torture" (straight out of the al qaida victim book), only to be found as dishonest and later admitting they were in fact doing what they were held for.

Do "I" feel bad? Nope. I feel bad for those that these people have killed in the name of their fake God.

Don't play terrorist victim here. These people are scum. That you defend them says a lot about your character.

 

Notice he still won't provide any evidence of such? Instead, he defends ONLY his buds and as usual, pretends to do so by the US Constitution, even though he knows his buds (who are enemy combatants) are not entitled to what he wishes they could have.

The only time he will mention the US Constitution is when he's defending terrorists. Apparently he believes the US Constitution was written specifically for those he supports.

 

All Gods are fake GTech, what exactly is your point here?

The actual topic of discussion was that only one of them held in has been charged, the rest being tortured, no legal reprisentation for up to and over 2 years.

There is no limit to how far you will go to protect these utter scumbags ruining your own country, you're a disaster waiting to happen.

If the boot was on the other foot and white US people were being held in a far off land for over 2 years without charge then you would be kicking up shit I have no doubt about that at all.

You're a hypocrite mate. Your love for Bush has ruined you.