Luck or Skill? You decide.

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Doug the Great, Aug 4, 2007.

  1. #1
    Okay well i'm currently ranking #7 for the term Free Online Games on google with my arcade (see sig).

    I've recently been working my but off on another keyword.... Free Games. I know ballsy right!? Excuse my french.

    But check this out
    http://www.google.com/search?q=free+games&hl=en&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS234&start=10&sa=N

    I'm on page 2! Check out how much more searched Free Games is over Free Online Games

    http://google.com/trends?q=free+games,+free+online+games

    If I get 3,000 visitors from Free Online Games (daily), how much do you think I will get from Free Games when I hit the 1st page? It is like 4-5 times more searched than Free Online Games
     
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    Overture is a better tool for checking search term traffic, I think. 'Free Games' and 'Free Online Games' are searched for equally according to Overture.

    SEO is mainly experience (skill) and a little luck in choosing a niche with a good difficulty to outcome ratio.
     
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    Good! Actually, you can get a lot more traffic ranking a bit higher. You're just about there. I'll call it a combination of luck, skill and quality.
     
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  4. Doug the Great

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    Per Day (Free Online Games) - 37708.22
    Per Day (Free Games - 80132.07

    ^^^Overture tool

    This is so exciting, knowing my earnings may get doubled even tripled if I work harder makes me so excited. I'm almost there!

    Everyone never give up, no matter how hard, keep pushing! //end cheesy exit speech
     
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    Per month.
    737893 free game
    647890 free online game

    ^^^Overture.....
     
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  6. Doug the Great

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  8. Doug the Great

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    Okay, I still don't see how that changes things?

    If the visits are still doubled and my main goal is to double my earnings, it doesn't matter if it's 4,000 a month compared to 40,000. Doubling what I make now with my current visitors from Google would still be the same. See what I'm saying?
     
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    #9
    Your first question was "If I get 3,000 visitors from Free Online Games (daily), how much do you think I will get from Free Games when I hit the 1st page?". According to (Yahoo) Overture you'll get equal traffic to what you get from the term 'Free Online Games'.
     
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  10. Doug the Great

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    :mad: :mad:
     
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    You don't agree?
     
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  12. Doug the Great

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    Ya, but talk about raining on ones parade.

    Sheesh.
     
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    #13
    You can still double the traffic. :p

    Then you can target terms like 'play free games', 'play free online games', 'free arcade game', 'free flash game' etc etc.
     
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  14. Doug the Great

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    After I conquer Free Games, i'm going for Online Games. Brings in same as Free Games... i'm already on the top of page 5 for Online Games. So, shouldn't be hard. I may run out of websites to link with before I could get up there, hehe.
     
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    From experience it is harder to rank high in google for a 2 keyword phrase than it is for a 3 keyword phrase.
     
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    Well, you did not say how you went about doing it (what you did to get there). If you had, we could have decided whether it was the work you put in or luck, or a combination of both. As it is, I will say it was good work on your part because its very difficult to rank for those keywords without some excellent work. (unless its a shuffle and you got lucky).
     
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  17. Doug the Great

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    Ya sorry for the lack of information. This was one of them on cloud 9 post. You have no idea what you did until after you have exited cloud 9. :D
     
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    You need skill i to be able to top search results.
     
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    i think you have both of them . lucky and skill.

    good job
     
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