What are the advantages or disadvantages or multiple directories on the same IP?

Discussion in 'Directories' started by swedal, Aug 3, 2007.

  1. #1
    I was hoping the someone could help me understand the advantages or disadvantages of more than one directory sharing hosting on the same IP.

    Is this something that is frequently done or should it be avoided?

    I see many hosting companies that offer packages where they will host multiple sites of yours in the same hosting account. Does this help or hurt any of the sites that do this?

    Thanks to any that respond! :)
     
    swedal, Aug 3, 2007 IP
  2. paidhosting

    paidhosting Peon

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    Np, You are welcome mate.
     
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    coolsitez Well-Known Member

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    We don't know how Google sees this. Some think you should have class C IP for each domain you own. But this is more used as an advertising tool.

    We have talked about the issue in many threads just like this.

    I put a link to Matt Cutt's blog regarding the issue.

    See this thread.
     
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  4. vicdigi

    vicdigi Banned

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    This will always remain a mystery with yet again much speculation.

    Nobody can claim to know the answer to this question.
     
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    msolution Well-Known Member

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    Yep!!! Anyone who claims to know this,
    Is either a newbie on the net, or
    wants money for his (supposed) knowledge!

    M.
     
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  6. malcolm1

    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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  7. swedal

    swedal Notable Member

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    Thanks to everyone that responded. It looks like I have a bit more reading to do.
     
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    swedal Notable Member

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    That video was pretty clear about it Malcolm. Thanks! I guess there might still be a stigma attached to having more than one site on an IP though.
     
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  9. malcolm1

    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    #9

    To be honest i have seo hosting so all my directories are own their own ips and different C classes.
    Im probably foolish but i dont like to take risks for a few extra bucks a month and want to ensure
    that reviewed submitters get the best. ;)

    thx
    malcolm
     
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  10. techpro

    techpro Peon

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    I have several sites all hosted on a reseller account at ivhosting.com where more than 1,600 sites share the same IP address (according to, for example. whois.domaintools.com/tech-directory.net). My main site (not a directory, but what difference would that make?) was moved several months ago to different hosting with its own IP address and I have not noticed the slightest difference in traffic, SERPs or anything else. It may not look very professional to you guys to have that many sites on one server but to the customers and, it seems, to the search engines, it doesn't seem to matter a bit.
     
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  11. coolsitez

    coolsitez Well-Known Member

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    Are your sites cross linking to each other?

    It could be bad idea if your 1,600 sites linking to each other, but otherwise, it's probably ok.
     
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    #12
    Google , Yahoo, Msn , probably have the tech to recognise every domain name help by the same individual , or group of individuals,

    Why worry about being on the same IP address ?

    The primary reason I would have domains on different servers is

    "don't put all your eggs in one basket"

    Server failure,

    isp failure

    bad neighbours on the server

    things beyond my control
     
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    coolsitez Well-Known Member

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    The issue is more about SEO. Google does use whois to get domain info, but it doesn't seem to be present in their algorithm. The rumor was to say Google checks Class C IPs to identify each domain source and devalue the backlinks from the same IP.

    I agree that server failure would be one of disadvantages. But then that shouldn't be the reason for us to buy dedicated servers for each domain ;)
     
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  14. techpro

    techpro Peon

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    Yeah, some of them do. But I only have 10 sites on that server, The other 1,590 belong to the other people who also have shared hosting on it.
     
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    coolsitez Well-Known Member

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    That explains I think. 10 cross linking shouldn't be a big deal.
     
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    if you dont coss link i dont see it a problem
    if you do coss link worst i see is that the links wont have the same value
    if you purchase either c class blocks or seperate accounts its for submitters who are unsure about how google sees this and wont improve the chances of your directory within google
    imo of course :)
     
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  17. ! Ask !

    ! Ask ! Peon

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    The IP thing is probably a SEO Bed story, but like malcolm said why take the risk, if submitters feel happier if on different IP's let's make then happy.

     
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    coolsitez Well-Known Member

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    You can also make submitters happy with PR :D

    But some smart submitters don't just look at PR.

    I bet some smart submitters don't worry about class C IP either.

    I think it is a matter of preference after all.

    <additional>
    Some people still think link exchange is the best way to increase PR
    </additional>

    ;)
     
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    msolution Well-Known Member

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    Thanx Malcom for clearing that up, (quite contrary to my belief)!

    which pops an interesting Q. into my head!

    if a guy like techpro (or me) who are happy with shared hosting,
    having more than say X00 sites (Reverse DNS shows me 53 on my server, though) will we get penalised coz of some other bozo who has similiar content accross his 100 sites on the same server!

    just trying to figure this out!

    Regards,
    M.
     
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  20. techpro

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    The reason why so many myths exist in SEO is that nobody knows. But I think that you have to bear in mind that Google cannot do something that would penalise people unfairly for matters that are beyond their control. This would open up possibilities for competitors to take action that would hurt a rival's business.

    Google knows that people use shared hosting, and it knows that people who use shared hosting have no control over the other sites that use the host. I don't see that it would so anything so stupid as to penalise me for the content of other people's sites. Matt Cutts' statement reassures me that this is, indeed, the position.
     
    techpro, Aug 4, 2007 IP