How to Foster Anti-War Sentiment among Americans

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  1. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #141
    No I have a beef with a moron who cuts the sentence in the middle to change the meaning. :rolleyes:

     
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    #142
    So Situation in Iran doesn't bother you, and even if it does you find it useless to cry for them? why so?

    If you want peace and democracy for everyone you should be crying for people of Iran.

    Since America is a republic and it allows its nationals to raise the voice against leadership, and it respects the freedom of speech yet your every single posts is against USA and bush. That too when Bush will be out of White house after elections. And if the new govt in power is democratic they can evaluate the decisions taken by Bush administration.

    So where it is useless to cry, you cry.
    But where people are getting killed, human rights is getting violated, Freedom of speech getting suppressed you keep silence.

    Thats really a good thing, isn't it?
     
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    #143
    even if I didn't cut the sentence, Bush is still commander in chief...which is his constitutional right by being voted into the office of presidency. Again, sounds like you have more of a beef with the constitution. Clinton did the same thing, except he downsized the military rather than building it up.
     
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  4. gworld

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    #144
    Can you show us where in Constitution says that president has the right to use the military to shoot his opposition. Are you really this stupid or are you just pretending because you are dishonest? :rolleyes:
     
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    #145
    Can you show me where president has used the military to shoot his opposition?

    And I wonder what made you to ignore earlier post and question, since you answer every question directed to you...
     
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  6. gworld

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    #146
    Where did I say that the situation in Iran doesn't bother me? If it makes you happy, I will state it here that I find both Bush and Ahmadinejad equally bad and against democracy.
     
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    #147
    Let's see,
    How many of your posts state the problem related to American democracy?
    And how many of your posts state the problems related to Iran?
    (Please give me 10 examples, I'd like to view your thoughts on Iran)..

    I see,
    Can you justify it?
     
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    #148
    it is for the people of iran to decide if they are happy with their government or not. when they decide that they are not happy with their govt they will remove them with force if need be.they did it to shah although one might argue that the islamic regime was also the result of manipulation by the western countries.
    once the people of a country chose their govt the govt becomes an instrument of people but if a govt is instaled by foreigners then that govt is nothing but a puppet and instrument of the foregin powers , no matter if it is called democratic or dictatorial.
     
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    #149
    So by your logic, isn't it for people of America to decide if they are happy with their govt or not, since election in USA is approaching?
     
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    #150
    people in US decide on their own government and people of iran should be able to decide on their own government.
    that is what makes democracy special. government get its power and legimecy from their own people not a foreign force
     
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    #151
    So that is my point, what makes Gworld, AGS and others worried about American democracy since they are not Americans? :confused:
     
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    #152
    Because Bush and his administration are a treat to the world because of American military power. :rolleyes:
     
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    #153
    The World ? Iraq and Afghanistan are entire world?

    How Bush and his administration are different than any other president of United States?
     
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    #154
    Where are you from? Do you even know anything about U.S. Constitution and American government?
     
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    #155
    That doesn't answer my questions....
     
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    #156
    You wouldn't ask if you had any idea about U.S. Constitution and government form. Therefore the first step is to determine how little you know and where should I start to explain for you, so it just doesn't go over your head. ;)
     
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    #157
    I'd prefer if you just answer the question(s), If i do not get anything I'll do my researches. if still I don't get things I'll ask you to clarify..
     
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    #158
    US has always put itself as a champion of freedom and rule of law
    it has been long admired as a country where its people have the freedom to express their opinion even if it is against the government.
    all the freedom loving people of the world have used US as a role model for their own government being iran saudiarabia or others
    all of a sudden US is using torture putting people in jail without trials
    attacking other countries and the president is acting more like their hated rulers
    this is a tremendous letdown for a lot of people because their champion was found to be no longer representing what they admired for such a long time.
    that is why there is so much of resentment toward US at this time
    people feel that bush have put out the lite and us has put the rug from under them.
     
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    #159
    Read The U.S. Constitution, all your answers are there, unless you like Bush and his admirers think that U.S. Constitution is just a piece paper full of BS. :rolleyes:
     
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    #160
    And it is still...

    People still have freedom to express their opinion against the Govt.
    Aren't they using their freedom to express their opinion against the govt?
    Do you know any example where govt put any citizen in jail or shoot him/her just because his OPINION was against Govt?

    Not really..

    Not People, but suspected terrorists...And they are known for taking up arms again after being released for kidnapping and killing people.

    I dont think so, if you are talking about freedom of speech...

    Still anyone outside of US or lets say Iraq and Afghanistan shouldn't be bothered about US administration.. by your logic..
     
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