Do you Think that google should Clasifiy Directories as Link Farms?

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  1. #1
    As the title says;

    Do you Think that google should Clasifiy Directories as Link Farms?

    I personally do.

    Whats your thoughts :)
     
    sundaybrew, Jul 31, 2007 IP
  2. oseymour

    oseymour Well-Known Member

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    Some of them are not worth much anymore.
     
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  3. sundaybrew

    sundaybrew Numerati

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    #3

    Yea, I do agree.

    And most of them just link to each other

    So they could be considered link farms and FFA pages actually
     
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  4. Swirleigh

    Swirleigh Active Member

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    Depends on the directory. Do they list everything submitted? ...Or is there a review process? Is there a niche theme? Does the directory have value to a human user?

    I'd say a directory that lists absolutely everything that is submitted, free or for a fee, is worthless.

    But one that judges entrys and is a quality collection of classified sites is useful and listings deserve link love credit.
     
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  5. mji2010

    mji2010 Active Member

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    I dont think directories should be classified as linkfarms. Link farms are uncategorized and unhelpful to users. Directories can be helpful to users.
     
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  6. coolsitez

    coolsitez Well-Known Member

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    #6
    Is there any solid reference to your comment?
     
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    coolsitez Well-Known Member

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    Even Dmoz or Yahoo!? ;)
     
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  8. zangief

    zangief Well-Known Member

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    If one day google removes their own directory we can talk about google devalueing them.Directories are what google want categorized links , link farms are not categorized that's the point.
    Even then directories would evaluate and emulate ordinary sites.
     
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  9. sundaybrew

    sundaybrew Numerati

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    There are a FEW directories that Do have some small Value,

    But 99.9 % of the ones on dp with

    "Submit your site now" are worth crap
     
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  10. skillipedia

    skillipedia Well-Known Member

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    Niche directory may be worth something, but general ones are just a waste of space and time

    Who gives a damn whether a web site is listed in dmoz or not?
     
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  11. zangief

    zangief Well-Known Member

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    #11
    You can not underestimate dmoz of course no one cares if you are listed on dmoz or not but dmoz gives you a lot of backlinks from different ips and domains because of the clones.And google surely cares about this.


     
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  12. malcolm1

    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    Hello...

    To me i guess it depends on what the directory has to offer..

    If it can get you indexed within 2 weeks or sooner and offers a strong backlink from a Quality Directory source
    then i feel its one off the better links as its a trusted vote from human perspective and will surely count more then the next option.

    I havent seen anything yet to make me belive that its been lowered by any means and if you take note off the Google webmaster guildlines
    then im sure you wont miss the... Submit to Yahoo directory as well Dmoz and other "Industy Specifics"...

    thx
    malcolm
     
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    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    #13
    If it's a general directory and they accept pretty much everything submitted, I'd say it may very well be equivalent to a link farm. But there are a few good general directories, and I think we'll continue to see niche directories growing, and those can have some real value. For example, a directory of record label sites would have obvious value to the target market. A directory of local businesses for a city would have value to its target... etc. There really wouldn't be a way to value some differently than others, so I don't think a blanket ruling on something like that would be a good thing.
     
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  14. sundaybrew

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    Yea - I actually meant "General" directories

    Something in a niche would have some value if it was ran right
     
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    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    I agree as i remember reading someones blog ;) and he did make a suggestion that the
    quality of sites submitted would play a role in determing its actual worth..

    As for general directories and niche...

    I believe that a certain amount of weight would go to the niche
    but at the same time you can always build your catagories to suite
    the needs of any niche site submitted so ....

    Will just have to wait and see... :)

    thx
    malcolm
     
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    coolsitez Well-Known Member

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    #16
    Ultimately as a user of Google search engine, I wish every rankings should be reasonable and well sorted, even with real humans reviewing to evaluate content quality, not just its uniqueness.

    But that's not going to happen. And I certainly like to take advantage of it for SEO, and Internet marketing. Ideally, G should devalue ANY site that is not worth visiting, not just directories ;)
     
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  17. Brian1970

    Brian1970 Notable Member

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    No, Why not give us your reasons why you think google should for us to debate?

    It’s widely believed that the update is close so we shall soon see what value google gives.
     
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  18. sundaybrew

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    Well PR can be bought, so that statement doesn't really make sense
     
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  19. mikey1090

    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #19
    Paid directories are worth a lot. In the google webmaster guidlines it tells webmasters to submit to QUALITY directories in order to improve their search engine rankings.

    Therefore, submitting to free directories, like you mention the "Submit your site now" are worth crap. You are probably right. these PR0 free directories are full of spam sites, and are worthless.

    Now lets look at what a quality link actually is

    • It Comes from a good site, a site that ranks high in search engines, has a good age, and has a good PR
    • It is on a page with good unique content
    • It is on a page with less than 50 outbound links
    • The other outbound links on that page have a similar niche/category
    • The links on the page do not go to sites with spam/casino/illegal content

    Now, if i was to place my link in a web directory, such as www.alivedirectory.com

    Do you think it meets the criteria for a quality link? I do think so. Therefore a backlink from a directory category is great, as it meets my criteria of quality links.

    However, if you get your site listed in a spammy, low PR, low SE ranked low quality free directory, it is not so much a quality backlink.


    Now do you see what i mean? if the directory is good, google will give more value to sites listed there.

    if the directory is spammy, google wont think "oh, another link farm", because if they did, they would ban it. They would just not give much weight to links from there.

    my advice is to find quality paid directories and submit there, not go for the free spammy sites.

    Not all free directories are spammy, but many are.



    I hope you value my opinion. As a directory owner (a quality paid directory) i have strong opinions on this topic :)

    mike
     
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  20. zangief

    zangief Well-Known Member

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    Being free is not always being crap and being paid is not always means that a directory is valued.You have to choose them
    yahoo directory is a paid and dmoz is a free one.
     
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