[MOD-phpLD] Add suggest a category on the submit page! By Me (msolution)

Discussion in 'Directories' started by msolution, Jul 28, 2007.

  1. malcolm1

    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    #21
    I tend to agree...

    As i remeber your (idea) Deep links was copied or used then given away for free
    though the code may not be the same.... the function is... :(

    I suggest all concerned parties speak with each other and try to resolve
    the issue as "middle men" (Interpreters) and attorneys can get very expensive..

    thx
    malcolm
     
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  2. The Pheonix

    The Pheonix Banned

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    #22
    I agree with you on dealing with this in private Malcolm and that's why I posted p.m's to this chap. The code and function are protected by copyright but I don't see it as a big issue if msolution takes it up with Kev and Gary.

    I'd hate to see this as a moneymaker for lawyers as it could, best they deal with it decent. Trouble is I get kicked in the tits for posting here as Kev and Gary were booted for allegedly being the same person (they weren't btw). I'd be well happy if they let them back here so I could go carry on programming which is what I'm good at.

    Cheers. :)
     
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  3. msolution

    msolution Well-Known Member

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    #23
    I agree u did, why get into posting legal stuff here mate :)
    when u have PM'ed me already!

    This is what i was waiting for, an email from them,
    and still am,:)

    "
    I would request further readers to refrain from posting here,
    i best believe the issue can be solved between Gary , Kev and me,
    any further posts here will only ruin the fun.
    "

    Regards,
    M.
     
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  4. smub

    smub Notable Member

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    #24
    even though you ask not to post here... i just can't deal with this so i am going to put my 2 cents in and if you dont want any one to post have this thread closed by one of the mods.


    Pheonix, Suggest a Category mod is not copyrighted by you guys unless you show good proof. Besides phpLD came in place before phplynx was founded, and phpLD had the suggest mod there way before phplynx came out and i know that for a fact because phplynx came out in public after i started phpld and i saw suggest a categroy mod as one of the first ones when i started.


    now if someone copied / stole idea was you phplynx to steal the idea of VS_Dan and i am certain many other used it before on just general websites for suggesting a category to post in, so you can't really copyright and if you have got a lawyer and have this mod trademarked for phplynx show us good proof, and maybe i am not 40yr old professional but the little knowledge of what i have i recall, you can't shut down the ones already started previously so you can't shut phpld's vs_dan mod ... and VS_Dan is allowed to make updates from that version.


    It is just ideas and like many others phplynx has copied also.


    I am through here ... and i am supporting an0n and msolutions here because they are right. you can't copyright suggest a category mod for submitpage....

    if kev and larry have problems why don't they come here and post... O yeah i remember they never talk here....


    i would like to see some legal stuff ... otherwise msolutions contact me and we can talk this further and i might be able to assist you.
     
    smub, Jul 29, 2007 IP
  5. The Pheonix

    The Pheonix Banned

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    #25
    It's times like this when 15 year olds act like 15 year olds, they just can't resist sticking their nose in other people's business. :rolleyes:

    The proof, not that I need to show you or anyone else other than msolution, even then its down to Kev or Gary is available http://www.cantufind.com/forum/showpost.php?p=681&postcount=1 The official copyright number is 266907 for those who want to be specific. Now perhaps you'll honour msolution's request to stay out of the thread as your not helping situations.

    To answer your comment on Kev and Gary, the reason they don't post here is because they can't, I did say this in an earlier post.

    As for phpLynx stealing vs_dans mods, not a chance, and the phpLynx people can prove that, can you? In the interest of forum decorum, please stay out of matters that don't concern you and concentrate on your own business.

    Let the hierarchy of phpLynx and msolution deal with this, you clearly have no idea of the copyright law so not commenting avoids you making mistakes with your statements. :)

    Thanks.
     
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  6. smub

    smub Notable Member

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    #26
    well to you Old guy its Mr. 16 year old. not 15... secondly, you copyrighted the script on that copyright not the suggest mod.

    Here i am .. Bill Gates... (I am copyrighting Windows and the right to deliver Operating System) Linux , Mac .. .( You can't supply anymore ) quit it ... its mine now ... Operating System for computers is mine...

    Sony .. I have the vaio laptop ... you can't make the laptop which flips open you have to make it which slides or it can't have a screen ... (GET A LIFE) !!!

    Now go in there and add a little about copyright every new mod you add in it.


    Hmm let me see if i can prove the phplynx copied Dan's idea

    lets think logically which came first .. phplynx or dan's mod...


    as i recall phplynx was launched when ... damn after monster-submit ... monster-submit (VSDan) had those mods since of October 2006 because thats when i got access to his site, and i am darn certain phplynx wasn't around in public than.

    so technically you did copied an idea.


    http://www.zazzle.com/ <<

    http://www.zazzle.com/contributors/gallery/suggest_cat.asp <<

    http://www.robotcafe.com/info/suggest/


    very certain these sites are here before phplynx ... so did u copy their ideas also ???


    its a public forum and i will post in this thread because its live in public.. as i said if msolutions want nobody to post get it closed by the moderator. It becomes my business when you try to threat a fellow here who is offering a service for free.


    sometimes it is hard to deal with when someone who is 16 year old is right but here is a peice of advise to you big guy ... dont sweat it ... suck it up ... and live with it.
     
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  7. msolution

    msolution Well-Known Member

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    #27
    Thanx for dropping in Smub, Appreciated,.... i do like the examples though,:D

    @Pheonix, this is what i told you day b4 yesterday, a simple text box cannot be copyrighted,... however i do wait for their email.

    @smub for the same reason above i dont think closing this thread would be wise, as i clearly dont see any copyright violation, mine is an original script,...written from scratch, and well attributed to a thread at phpLD

    This is what i do,.... i take specail care in attributing where the idea came from,.... and none of the people so far have said anything, may it be YAIM (GoodPRLinks - details page), who told me it was ok to play with his code. or someone else.

    To cite a few simliar examples like Smub's: :D
    1. The first Web search engine was Wandex, ....Google Yahoo and MSN should be shut down
    2. Google AdSense was the first major contextual advertising program .... Yahoo publisher should be shut down,.... and others too!
    3. .... i can do this all day,....

    i still wait for Kav/ Gary.

    Regards
    M.
    PS: let this thread be a thread for the topic,.... which is definately not some copyright violation issue,.... which IMHO is no issue at all.
     
    msolution, Jul 29, 2007 IP
  8. The Pheonix

    The Pheonix Banned

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    #28
    With respect to both of you, it would be better if you stopped playing at being Lawyers as your way off the mark. It is the FUNCTION of the text box that is copyright, not the design. For goodness sake, check the copyright laws and stop trying to be clever. Smub hasn't got a clue about the law.

    Check the facts before posting as well, I do. http://web.archive.org/web/20060427153611/http://www.robotcafe.com/ you'll see that the 'suggest a category function' was on a SEPERATE LINK not on the sumbit form, a big difference.

    The copyright by phplynx of this mod was actually before the phplynx site was registered in June 2006 Smub, please do your homework BEFORE you come into some debate as it makes you look silly and I don't want to see that happen. Example of zazzle, isn't it in ASP? a totally different language and it's not a directory script.

    Do you think the guys at phpLynx take copyright lightly? They would not have gone to all the lenghts they did if they didn't. :confused:

    Fact of the matter is that phpLynx can probably prove in a Court of Law that the copyright is theirs for the PHP CODE and the FUNCTION not the box design, its a Court's opinion that is important not us programmers who simply THINK we know the law by pulling up unqualified references from places of no authority in legal land. Go to the government websites smub if you want to learn copyright law, don't cite from resources a Court would laugh at.

    Smub, what are you on about with bill gates and microsoft for, get real examples, no-one said msolution can't use a simular feature or product, the point made is they cannot use an IDENTICAL one and that's a hard fact.

    I'm not a Lawyer, not even going to pretend to be one, I tried to help msolution via p.m, I'm going to leave it to the people at phpLynx to sort it out however they want to. I wouldn't be surprised if they shock you by following this through to the bitter end the way you've been baiting them though.

    Me, I would have taken the easier route, instead of playing perry mason I would have simply written to them and sorted it out amicably. Smub, your a good designer, don't let yourself down on that mate.

    Lastly, at you msolution, just to make it a little clearer... phpld thread on suggest a cat..... it references vs_dans mod.

    These posts were made on 07-15-2006

    http://www.phplinkdirectory.com/forum/showpost.php?p=28226&postcount=1

    http://www.phplinkdirectory.com/forum/showpost.php?p=76981&postcount=10

    Dan did have a suggest cat mod, just like the one used at http://www.theorangepages.com/suggest.php it was NOT on the submit page which is what this is all about.

    Anyway, I really do think its best to leave the two parties sort this out as that's what it's all about. Smubs not going to pay your legal costs if it goes that way msolution and I certainly ain't paying phpLynx's.
     
    The Pheonix, Jul 30, 2007 IP
  9. msolution

    msolution Well-Known Member

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    #29
    Now you are going out of line here, Dude!

    IF phpLynx had any issues they would have got in touch with me by now, they didn't, .... so why are u still here, talking all this!

    I dont think my product is in any way similiar,.... it is much more advanced!

    This is what you said yesterday,.... then why this post today, we can sort it out without your further help!

    It is between Gary Kev and ME,.... which is what im saying,.... wheres the issue.!

    your problem here being!


    A one liner was made for the well known Mod, of a coder who everyone respects,.... other than that,....the thread underlines no one in phpLD has wrked on this. and i am the first!

    Thank you, and i expect no further posts from you on this thread.... not your script not your headache!

    The people who own the script and I will sit it out with them to a solution *** IF *** there is a problem,.... which clearly this forum fails to see, including me.

    M.
     
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  10. jminscoe

    jminscoe Peon

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    #30
    I hate to say it but IMHO it sounds more like "I wish I would have made it instead" I have been with phplinkdirectory since 2005 and I can remember some of the other people having a suggest a category.
    msolution if I was you I just woouldn't repond to the 'go between' just wait to hear from the bosses or owners of phplynx

    Clarification The suggest a category was on other people sites
     
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  11. The Pheonix

    The Pheonix Banned

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    #31
    Sorry but your absolutely wrong, check the history of phpld and for a 100% fact they have not had this feature, I think my last post made that pretty clear.

    No disrespect jminscoe but if it had been in existence phpLynx could not have formally copyrighted it so you are wrong, the only suggest a category they had was the one not on the submit page.

    Your right on one thing, it's pretty much a waste of time us bantering on here, it gets us nowhere, if the phpLynx team want to take this on then its thier call. I've done my bit. :)
     
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  12. Dubz

    Dubz Peon

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    #32
    You sure know alot about all this stuff for someone who is just a directory enthusiast. When are you going to quit lying and just come out and say that you work for PHPLinx that you are paid to promote them in forums and that you never intend on starting a directory.

    I'd ignore the Phoenix. Next he is going to tell you that the script company he works for has copyrighted a "submit page" and a "latest links". He will shamelessly do anything he can just to get a mention and link to the script he works for. He's so predictable it's hilarious.

    Note to PHPLinx Owners: Next time you send someone into a forum. Send someone friendly so people aren't turned off your product before they even see it!

    I like stats but I'm lazy in that regard. I bet if you counted every all of the troll's posts. You'd find 80%-90% somewhere mention the script he works for. He doesn't own a directory so why else would he make any posts unless he get his link and talk about the end all be all directory scripts that he doesn't even use... (Wishing there was an emoticon for shaking head)

    I think a more suitable name would of been The Troll instead of The Phoenix.


     
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  13. The Pheonix

    The Pheonix Banned

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    #33
    I could think of a few for you but won't as the forum has rules about insulting members, I don't intend to do that to you or anyone else, I'd appreciate it if you didn't with me.

    I'm as entitled as the next person to promote the script or product of my choice, you don't have to read them, and if you don't like my posts simply stay out of the threads as I do with ones I don't like.:)
     
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    Dubz Peon

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    #34
    That's all I wanted to hear that you were indeed on Phplink payroll. You denied that from the start which is why I called you a liar.

    Also most of the people here that are honesty discussing scripts don't work for one. We talk about what we like as UNBIASED 3RD PARTIES.

    You Mate are Biased. You work for PHPLINX therefor whether direct or indirect you stand to profit from the expansion of PHPLINK so I recommend everyone here listening to take everything Phoenix says with a grain of salt.

    That's all I wanted, not to insult you, not to make personal attacks just for you to quit lying to us and come out and say you work for PHPLINK why was that so hard and something to be ashamed of?

    Also regarding the directory that you run and everyone here submits to... Previously you said you are working on one. Now you have an established one. Things just keep changing with you. I just wanted others to know the reality.

    Rob

    AND

     
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  15. The Pheonix

    The Pheonix Banned

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    #35
     
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