Need help to solve a dispute with content writing.

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by akel, Jul 28, 2007.

  1. #1
    Hi,

    I want some of your help. I asked here for a content writing, and one of DP member accepted it.

    my condition was.

    the material should be unique..

    & before writing it send me a email saying the material is unique...

    now the guy send me articles which were copied from different pages in internet, and another with -ve points of the country i asked him to write,i gave him proof & asked to write again. & second didnt approve the -ve one.
    I want to run the site so cant put -ve point about that country. or about their ppls..

    so I asked to make it clear and write again. then he send me the same -ve one saying that the matrials are completed.. send me the money.

    how can i pay, when he didnt do whay i asked for..

    Now he threatens me, saying that i am a S..C.A..M & he will spoil reputation of
    my sites, if didnt pay...

    I need 2- 3 article writes to check the artickle & tell me i am right or wrong..

    I am ready to pay for this work

    I dont know this is the place to write or not. ( if not MODs please transfer to proper place)

    Thanks
     
    akel, Jul 28, 2007 IP
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  2. Ramesh Kumar, S

    Ramesh Kumar, S Peon

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    #2
    Well buddy ,what you told is just a rewrite which should pass the copyscape.
    Do you want the screenshots of that

    Now lemme explain about this scammer a bit better.
    First : He asked me through gtalk(carefully avoiding DP) to ask me to write articles
    Second : He asked me to make a quote
    Third :He agreed on the quote as soon as I sent , no question asked.(Seems suspicious there itself)
    Four: He agreed he will pay in advance
    Five : Later he said he will pay after ten days(All proofs available with screenshot). I still trusted him
    Six : He told no need to complete research. Just provide a article that passes a copyscape is good enough
    Seven : I sent him two articles
    Eight : He said first one is ok. In second one he asked to remove the negative points
    Nine : I asked for the advance now
    Ten : He asked to send a request mail regarding that so that he can use it as proof
    Eleven : After receivin the mail, he said it will take ten days to pay me
    Twelve: I sent the edited second and also the third
    Thirteen: He said all the articles are copied and don't want to use them
    Fourteen: I agreed and left
    Fifteen : Later when I searched for copyscape, I found his site using my article
    Sixteen : I asked him about it and told him that I will go public.
    17: Thinking smart, he started the thread before me
    18: Learn from him the tricks to scam
     
    Ramesh Kumar, S, Jul 28, 2007 IP
  3. Wonderdog

    Wonderdog Banned

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    #3
    So the articles weren't unique after all, were they?
     
    Wonderdog, Jul 28, 2007 IP
  4. akel

    akel Guest

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    #4
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    this is the way he talks : (thats why he avoided DP)
    Ramesh: i made changes u idiot

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    no they were not.

    I am ready to hire 2-3 article writers to check..

    I am ready to pay

    I didnt avoid DP.

    I have all emails.

    Can forward or give my password to a DP trusted guy to check the emails.

    & google talk registers in gmail :)
     
    akel, Jul 28, 2007 IP
  5. Ramesh Kumar, S

    Ramesh Kumar, S Peon

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    #5
    NO they passed the copyscape.
    I did a he asked me to rewrite.
    Why I agreed and left is that, I'm person with policy that if the person doesn't want the articles, he doesn't need to pay for it.
    But why he agreed in the first place and even used it in his site after saying he doesn't want the articles

    Don't go for that job.. how cool is that trick now.
    Spending 2 to 3 dollars on people to show that Im wrong so that he can avoid my payment of $60.
    Man you are really really smart, I say.
     
    Ramesh Kumar, S, Jul 28, 2007 IP
  6. Bob'O

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    #6
    Well I think the bottom line here is that if he used them on his site he should pay for them.

    If he says he cannot use them, so that he doesn't have to pay for them, then he shouldn't be using them.

    The point on whether or not he wanted original articles or just rewritten to pass copyscape material is moot at this point.

    Example: You asked for articles on blueberries and he wrote you articles on toads. You said sorry but I don't like them and cannot use them THEN you put them on your site. Well, you pay for it bottom line, no way around it, no reason to even argue. PAY THE GUY!
     
    Bob'O, Jul 28, 2007 IP
  7. akel

    akel Guest

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    #7
    9:05 AM Ramesh: hi
    Now listen
    9:06 AM I had seen many people like you
    first of all tell me why you agreed the first article
    and asked me the second article
    if you want to stop me you could have told me there
    9:07 AM listen buddy, i spend nearly $40 to my writers to write those article
    and im going togive you a negative itrader in dp
    9:08 AM not onl that i will make sure in Sensored jobs too that your scam is well known
    and after that this article wich i wrote for you, i will send to those thousands of articles directories and make sure that its of no use to you
    9:09 AM wait scammer lemme leave you a negative itrader now
    9:10 AM me: leave it, but copied material
    I will post saying you copied materials & send me
    i have the sites from where u copied\
    u want it
    i will to do it
    9:11 AM see Sensored is not mine
    i am just a ad partner
    i dont care
    I will not use event a single word from u r article
    its a copy
    i asked u
    send me unique
    9:12 AM i will accept
    still i am ready
    but unique
    not copied
    I didnt agree
    first time itself i send mail
    i said sencond is giving -ve points
    first is ok
    but copy
    make changes
    9:13 AM u send the second again
    what shall i do
    u want
    Ramesh: i made changes u idiot
    i made change
    me: i will talk public in DP
    Ramesh: they are unique
    me: lets chat there
    agree
    Ramesh: ya
    cum ther
    me: ok
    Ramesh: we will talk abt your scam htere
    how good u r at rip off
    9:14 AM i will make sure that every person in dp how smart you are in scamming the people
    you delayed the payment for a while
    at that time itself i knew you are a scammer
    and now u got three article without spending a penny
    you made me to work as a slave
    9:15 AM sendin this and sendin that
    i evenhave a copy where you say just rewrite of the article is enuf
    what u said is wat i did
    now im scammed
    9:16 AM send me the atleast $24 whch i spent on writer and i spare
    else lets go to the public now
    9:21 AM me: ok
    come to http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=3934357#post3934357
    we will solve it
    I am ready to pay
    if material is unique
    as u said i am in DP
    come lets chat
    i am hiring ppls to check
    this article u send
    9:23 AM read this
    First is ok, matches to Wiki, but no problem i think so.

    the second cant be accepted. you have to write in favore, remove
    unfavorable wordings...

    I need to run this site in Sensored :)
    Read it well

    http://www.kwintessential.co.uk/resources/global-etiquette/kuwait-country-profile.html

    I dont have problems, but make little your wordings, change it little..

    Sorry. I am still ready if you make changes & feel different, not
    copied from any where
    9:24 AM did u read this email
    i had send
     
    akel, Jul 28, 2007 IP
  8. Ramesh Kumar, S

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    #8
    Absolutely on point bob.
    Thats what my point is all about.
    How can he agree a the first place and later on says no.
    Thank god for copyscape that I traced this scammer.

    Cool chat logs.
    Buddy do me a favour..Copy paste the entire chatlog from the begining to end so that DP members knows the matter completely.
    This partial copy won't help them to understand ur SCAM
    now let me go to yuvajobs and explain your scam there
     
    Ramesh Kumar, S, Jul 28, 2007 IP
  9. akel

    akel Guest

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    #9
    Prove it Please...........

    Yuva is not mine.... ( so please stay away from it, its for my friend & dont want him to pull in this..)


    Read it well : Thsi was send to u in email... where i said it clear

    http://www.kwintessential.co.uk/reso...y-profile.html

    I dont have problems, but make little your wordings, change it little..

    Sorry. I am still ready if you make changes & feel different, not
    copied from any where
    9:24 AM did u read this email
    i had send


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    I am not scammer, I asked only to rewrite it again ...

    I a said all time that i am ready to pay, If you change the material.... I dont need a copied material

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    I started this topic because u said it.

    9:14 AM i will make sure that every person in dp how smart you are in scamming the people
    you delayed the payment for a while
    at that time itself i knew you are a scammer
    and now u got three article without spending a penny
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    you didnt finish your wor & forcing to pay ???
     
    akel, Jul 28, 2007 IP
  10. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #10
    First person, Take the articles down and dont use them
    Second person, return any money you recieved (if you recieved any)
    Then stay out of each others way and dont do business in the future.
     
    stOx, Jul 28, 2007 IP
  11. akel

    akel Guest

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    #11
    Read carefully

    26th July :

    6:02 PM me: hi
    Ramesh: hi
    I mean i will do the job
    but need payment before the job
    me: I dont have problem taking info from different sites, but make some changes dont just copy & paste
    Ramesh: hope you understand what I'm saying
    me: I know
    Ramesh: Yes ok.I will do as you tell
    6:03 PM me: but what you send was against what i asked
    & u didnt send email the quote, with condition i asked
    so how can i send money
    i said
    Ramesh: I sent you an email
    me: send the email & its u r s
    Ramesh: I sent you asking $60
    me: the money
    6:04 PM but didnt say that the materials is written by you
    do you have a office

    or u r frelancer
    did you try thishttp://www.kwintessential.co.uk/resources/global-etiquette/kuwait-country-profile.html
    6:05 PM http://www.kwintessential.co.uk/resources/global-etiquette/kuwait-country-profile.html
    Ramesh: ya
    now sent you a mail
    check it out
    me: see my condition was clear from starting that u have to create u r own wordings, and mention in quote its your own created material
    6:06 PM u said in mail 2 finished send money to send the third
    ok
    send it
    I need the material
    Ramesh: no now i sent a new mail
    me: i am ready to pay
    ok
    :)
    6:07 PM now ok
    as you know we are doing business
    Ramesh: Ya, I understood
    6:08 PM me: if i came to know u copied, i will claim for refund
    ok
    ok
    i will send soon
    6:09 PM Ramesh: sure
    not a problem
    me: ok
    u have to wait for 2 days
    for payment
    can you
    6:10 PM Ramesh: ok
    me now logging off
    byeee
    me: thanks
     
    akel, Jul 28, 2007 IP
  12. Ramesh Kumar, S

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    #12
    Buddy the issue is simple. you used the article.
    now whether you removed it from your site or not, you got to pay me.
    thats the point.
    You still want to beleive me into your lies and write articles for you once again and you keep on escaping with them,
    I'm fed up.
    This will be my last post in this thread. I have other works.
    if I don't receive the payment of $20 the article which you agreed and used on your site, then Im leavng a negative itrader for you and a nice feedback at yuvajobs regarding your scam and whatever thread you post in DP about your scam
     
    Ramesh Kumar, S, Jul 28, 2007 IP
  13. akel

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    #13

    Thanks

    But i am still ready to pay, if he makes the article unique atleast 60%
     
    akel, Jul 28, 2007 IP
  14. Bob'O

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    #14
    Stox: Exactly! I was just going to post something very similiar.

    Akel: Did you take the "material" that he provided you and put it on a website or not?
     
    Bob'O, Jul 28, 2007 IP
  15. akel

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    #15
    I didnt use your materials, i can provide all my sites here, let anyone find out any thing used,

    I am saying it,.. send me now... now the article as i asked.. I will pay

    I am in a forum u asked, now. not on a Google talk
     
    akel, Jul 29, 2007 IP
  16. akel

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    #16
    Anybody brings Proof i used this article : $100 award from me... , But proof should be real.. with link to that site.

    This was related to the first material when i found out it was copied ......
     
    akel, Jul 29, 2007 IP
  17. Bob'O

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    #17
    akel: You will find no sympathy here.

    This was obviously a biz deal gone bad and if I was your writer I wouldn't write you another single word.

    You've already showed how unprofessional you are by not only posting this thread but private "chat logs" and wasting time and energy instead of talking rationally with the writer.

    It would probably be very easy for him to prove you used it on your site even if you already removed it (using Google cache or similiar) which would prove you scammed him so maybe you should just let it go.

    Like stox said: take the articles down, writer doesn't get paid but retains full rights to the work he did and never speak to each other again.
     
    Bob'O, Jul 29, 2007 IP
  18. akel

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    #18
    Ok.

    I am not going to use, and as you think i used it I will pay for it, $20 dosnt make me small. (Ramesh Please post here you recived $20)

    and if you found any proof, from googel, my host, or anysource you can try...& proved I used it in my site I will pay additional $200
     
    akel, Jul 29, 2007 IP
  19. akel

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    OK as you said I have paid $20.00 BUT I am not going to use it as .. 90% in first material was copied from http://www.kwintessential.co.uk/resources/global-etiquette/kuwait-country-profile.html

    If i ask them to paste in their site, what he gave me, will this reputed do????

    Ramesh Please dont do this to anyone else....

    I paid it, as i dont care.. I will not use the material anywhere, but not all will be like me.. Take Care & Bye
     
    akel, Jul 29, 2007 IP
  20. shylesson

    shylesson Banned

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    #20
    Nowhere in here does it say that he asked for a rewrite. Yes, he said to pass copyscape, but how does that give you right to assume he meant a rewrite?
     
    shylesson, Jul 29, 2007 IP