Terrorism isn't as bad as drunk driving deaths!

OK.

Thanks for the good explanation. Rep added.

Rob

 

killing hundreds of thousands iraqis and turning the country into a terrorist breeding ground was good for iraqis?

 

But that wasn't the plan, that is what the current result is at the moment.

Rob

 

Iraq was a terrorist breeding ground, and Iraqis were getting killed long before allied forces invaded Iraq, only it wasn't getting the headlines of the news as no one was interested to know what was going on there. No-one cared about Iraqis before the invasion.

So yes it was good for Iraqis, as certainly Saddam wasn't investing $32 Billion in the reconstruction of Iraq, as US and allies are doing now, Instead he was abusing 'Oil for food' program, which originally was intended to get food for starving and dying Iraqis, to raise the money for his personal interests and terrorists to gain the control over middle east.

 

In otherwords, whatever would happen in Iraq would have been bad anyway, and there would have been no way around it.

Either way, we lose, and this is the cheapest solution in the long-term.

Rob

 

So USA decided in order to help the poor Iraqis, it will be a good idea to bomb the country, start a civil war, write oil contracts that gives the control of Iraq's oil fields to American companies for next 25-40 years and force millions of Iraqis to flee country as refugee.

What a great help, with such good friends, who needs enemies?

 

Would you like the whole of the middle east being under control of a single dictator?

Rob

 

And who will that be? Saddam couldn't even win the war with Iran, let alone control the whole middle east.

Do you think that this administration dream of new empire and control of the world is reasonable or even possible? How many have to die in order to prove to bunch of losers that the time of empires has passed?

 

Iraq would be a loser country with or without our interference? Is that what you are trying to explain?

He must have been a threat in the first place for the UN to get involved.

Rob

 

Things were bad when Allied forced attacked Iraq, yes.
This wasn't a win situation, it's never been. This was a war that can not be won.
but yes there are some goals that can be achieved and allied forces achieved some of them.
One of the primary goal was to free Iraq from Saddam's regime.
Another one is to establish a stable govt. in Iraq.

Actually People are least interested in what would have happened there.
They never were, for them its just another issue for bashing Bush/America.

How many people have you seen expressing concerns over Afghanistan/Iraq before 9/11. People were getting killed in those areas long before that.

Buddhists, Probably the most peaceful community on earth, are getting killed in Indonesia, how many threads do you see here?
People are getting killed in Pakistan almost everyday, how many people are expressing their concern on that?

Saddam killed innocent Kuwaitis, invaded their country, have you ever seen an anti-war person to express the concern over that issue?

 

Iraq was not worse of than rest of the countries in that region before USA gave it green light to attack Iran. The situation got worse after the first gulf war when USA decide to break down the country through UN and by helping insurgents in different part of Iraq. Saddam was a bad person but do you honestly believe that present people are any better? The main man of US government in the beginning was a convicted bank fraudsters, the present President was involved in oil and drug smuggling. The defense minister stole the money and run away.
USA and other permanent members of UN security council can pass anything they want. It is simple, they vote in what they want and they veto anything they don't like no matter how many are for it.

 

Russia is also a permanent member of security council, they have rights to veto anything they don't want.
And its quite obvious that Russia doesn't fancy US as other European countries.
In the past they have vetoed many proposals. So it wrong assumption to say that US and allies can get anything passed at least from Security Council.

 

read what I wrote: USA and other permanent members.
As long as they can make a deal among themselves then they can pass anything the want but it seems Russia is waking up to USA's ambitions in becoming the new empire, so hopefully they will play more hardball and won't let USA control the security council as they want.

 

Punishment has nothing to do with being frightened.

I thought you was a defender of law & order & not a pro-terrorist supporter or anti-American as you claimed in the other thread, you did say that right? well what's the problem with enforcing the law with regard to your terrorist friends?, or is that your new line if your not frightened then leave those nice terrorists alone? your a crazy guy with a backward way of thinking, that's why your so bothered about stupid things like for instance; if a terrorist got caught in the act but got only one meal per day while detained Gworld throws a hissy fit

Obviously your attack on sense means you believe the opposite right? you believe it makes no sense for governments to target your terrorist friends?

 

Bush killed innocent Iraqis, invaded their country, have you ever seen an pro-war person to express the concern over that issue?

 

You are right but you should leave the discussion about punishment and how should be done to the men who can do it. You are just a sissy with loud mouth who don't dare to fight. People will just laugh at you and take it as a joke when you try to talk "tough".

toopac, the "tough" sissy, what a joke.

 

Bush has not killed anyone FYI

 

I'm always right, i know.

Obviously you can't even discuss anything as you don't have the mental capacity to, you can't seriously be 50 years old.

 

I just agree with you.

 

Yes, I'm a pro-war. I support US for attacking on Saddam's regime, yet I condemn whenever any single civilian gets killed, provided they are innocent civilians.
Additionally Whenever Army makes such mistakes, they regret it, killing innocents is not their goal, its not what they want to achieve. They admit their mistake.
But do you find anyone regretting when a terrorist blows himself in public? Nope.