Sep 11th a mastermind of the USA ?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ezguy, Jul 22, 2007.

  1. iJeff

    iJeff Active Member

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    #221
    I'm not entirely sure it was an inside job, and it is not the muslims who are claiming this the most, but it was indeed allowed by the US government, who ignored many warnings.
     
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  2. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #222
    So coldfire is basically saying that this whole thing is a govt. conspiracy because a passport was found??? lmfao!!! As I asked earlier, Why does this matter? Unless of course you are so blind to the truth that you have to take any random thing and figure out your own conclusion that *gasp* the GOVT. did it!! AGS is so proud...:rolleyes:
     
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  3. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #223
    It's unfortunate that you don't know the difference between an opinion and facts. Once again, trying to use "bin ladens" as a link that osama is guilty, but forgetting that you are trying to mount his defense campaign to give him aid and comfort.

    It's not dated material. It stands, on it's own merits, as an admission by osama that he was responsible.

    There was nothing in your source where bin laden retracted his admission of guilt. I bet he's glad you are not his criminal defense attorney :D

    Rex Tomb? So without verifying and doing your own research, you once again confirm that you are willing to believe anyone that tries to convince you that 9/11 was an inside job? Let's see what Mr. Tomb really has to say:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/27/AR2006082700687.html
    Honestly, you couldn't make it any easier on me ;) One after another after another after another. Demonstrating my initial point that "troofers" don't care about facts and don't do their own thinking/research. They simply copy/paste what others tell them to think. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you...for proving me right, yet again!

    That was never done. Intellectual dishonesty, or willful dishonesty?
     
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  4. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    #224
    As you are DP's Copy and Paste God I think that is awfully rich GTech. :eek:

    You are here pretty much 24 hours a day trying to defend anything that is against your beloved hero Bush, the most dangerous man in the world.

    As I said yesterday to you take a week off dude, you're getting more and more crazy by the day. :(

    I'm pretty sure that the rest of the crazy gang can hold the fort while you are away, god willing.
     
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  5. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #225
    you hate it when any of us copy and paste, because that means that we have facts, which is what you can never present.
     
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  6. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #226
    I corrected your projectionism for accuracy. Deserves a cheer, no?

    [​IMG]
     
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  7. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #227
    He'd never say that to someone who is defending his hero, osama, though. Only to those who threaten his delusional reality :D
     
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  8. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    #228
    lol d16man right on cue.

    GTech has detailed files on people like me and anthonycea amongst others (ve vill not letz you get avay vith disrespecting our Commander Guy.)

    There are many unanswered questions about 9/11. It's a vicious circle.

    The good news for your scumbag terrorist lover Bush and his controller Cheney is that they have got away with it. Thousands have died thanks to these scumbags and if there is any justice in the world they will pay for their crimes. God willing.

    Good to see you back up GTechs arse mate, I was a bit worried that you had left the scene a bit of late. I always have to double check because you and GTech post exactly the same. :(




    LOL GTech, love dat cheerleader!!!

    Sidenote:

    See what I mean about previewing the post before posting. ;)
    I didn't know you posted that because I am replying to your doppelganger but on preview I seen it!
    As I said before it ain't good on increasing the post count (especially for you in your race to catch anthonycea up :p) but ya cannot deny it is sensible and sound advice from ya Unca AGS. :D
     
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  9. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #229
    Yes there are but Alex Jones knows the answers;)
     
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  10. aletheides

    aletheides Banned

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    #230
    Osama obviously not disowned - hmm I wonder why? (Maybe he did not commit the crime?)

    Yes these are great confessons I might add:

    ""The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its enemies attack it.

    "I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons," bin Laden's statement said. "

    ---

    "I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie.

    "I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act.

    "Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle."




    There quite literally is nothing to retract when it wasnt made in the first place - is there?

    Yes, because the FBI just doesn´t have the time to add on the most heinous crime in history :rolleyes: lol!!

    Your article also states: The notice says bin Laden is "a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world" but does not provide details...

    Heres bin ladens little home on the FBIs most wanted terrorists:
    http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm

    "Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world."

    Ummm what else?? Anything on Sept. 11th? Oh, you mean they will mention a bombing so miniscule when compared to Sept. 11th, but not 9/11 itself? LOL

    Actions speak louder than words:

    A CIA unit that had hunted for Usama bin Laden and his top deputies for a decade has been disbanded, according to a published report. Citing unnamed intelligence officials, The New York Times reported Tuesday that the unit, known as "Alec Station," was shut down late last year. The decision to close the unit, which predated the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, was first reported Monday by National Public Radio. (Source: Associated Press, July 4, 2006)
     
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  11. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #231
    I'd like the link on that one....

    also, check this out:

    I found a link that was real similar, and this is what it had to say:
    ...lets see, a decade means that Clinton started it, and not bush...wasn't it also Clinton who had the chance to take out Bin Laden and didn't, several times? My question is did you leave out that little bolded word to make it fit your agenda?? Furthermore, I think you ought to re-read the article and see why they were disbanded, which was to focus on the group as a whole, rather than just one individual...while finding binny would be great, it would not make terrorism stop overnight...

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/04/w...65600&en=3779ed9b98bb9d22&ei=5088
     
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  12. aletheides

    aletheides Banned

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    #232
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/05/terror/main1776250.shtml

    "The first head of the Central Intelligence Agency's Osama bin Laden-hunting unit tells CBS News that closing the unit was "a mistake" and "a questionable decision."

    "Bin laden remains the single most important threat to the United States, and there's no way around that fact," Michael Scheuer a CBS News terrorism analyst said on The Early Show."

    ...Sounds like pretty good treatment from the CIA from the person who supposedly bragged about bringing down the twin towers - doesnt it?
    ---

    http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/07/04/news/laden.php

    "The terrorist tracking unit, known inside the spy agency as "Alec station," was disbanded late last year and its analysts reassigned to other offices within the CIA's Counterterrorist Center, the officials said Monday."

    ...This basically tells us that there is no longer a focused, concentrated effort on finding Bin Laden..
     
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  13. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #233
    Actually he was. Once again, you seem to not have the ability to decipher between an opinion of someone, and facts. But if you believe it helps your "cause" of defending terrorists, please feel free to continue asserting it.

    Thank you for proving my point for me again. Remind me of the date of these weak sources? Go ahead, you can do it.

    Now tell me how they debunk this story:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/11/11/wbin11.xml

    If you were representing your buddy in court, he'd probably fire you!

    So you are going to stick with denial and lying? Despite hard evidence that says otherwise?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/11/11/wbin11.xml

    So now that we see the truth from Rex Tomb, you are no longer interested in him as your witness to defend osama? You were more than ready to use him as your defense of a terrorist, when his words were taken out of context, but when we see the big picture, suddenly he has no more value to you?

    Thanks for the additional denial!

    I agree. Your actions are defending a known terrorist and you back that up with words that others tell you to think. I couldn't agree more.

    So far, you've not been able to defend your buddy very well at all. You've proven:

    facts do not matter
    when the same witness you dishonestly use is shown to speak the real truth, you attempt to sweep it under the table.
    you let conspiracy sites do your thinking for you
    you have no idea what a credible source is
    honesty is not important to you
    when proven wrong, you simply move to the next subject like a good "troofer"

    Have I missed anything?
     
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  14. aletheides

    aletheides Banned

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    #234
    Your telegraph article is based upon a tape which the government refuses to authenticate.

    Those are vague words from Rex Tomb... Yes, there is no logic behind adding 9/11 to Bin Ladens list of crimes -- why, theres enough there already, right? Lol, ok... When has the government ever taken this stance? Ever?

    Bin Laden is obviously an enemy of America and should be caught, but realize theres more than one enemy lurking around.

    [​IMG]
     
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  15. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #235
    And you can prove this how? Will the url have "prison" "info" or "rense" in it? I'd love to see your source confirming this.

    Incorrect. What you quoted were vague words. What I countered with made your quotes seem hilarious! So do you stand behind Rex Tomb now, or would you prefer to sweep that one under the rug too?
     
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  16. aletheides

    aletheides Banned

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    #236
    Government Refuses to Authenticate Bin Laden Confession Video
    Government Refuses to Authenticate Bin Laden Confession Video and another one.
    Swiss institute brands latest bin Laden tape a fake


    I hardly call this vague - it is actually quite straightforward, isnt it?

    "Surprised by the ease in which this FBI spokesman made such an astonishing statement, I asked, “How this was possible?” Tomb continued, “Bin Laden has not been formally charged in connection to 9/11.” I asked, “How does that work?” Tomb continued, “The FBI gathers evidence. Once evidence is gathered, it is turned over to the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice than decides whether it has enough evidence to present to a federal grand jury. In the case of the 1998 United States Embassies being bombed, Bin Laden has been formally indicted and charged by a grand jury. He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connected Bin Laden to 9/11.”

    http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm

    [​IMG]
     
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  17. aletheides

    aletheides Banned

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    #237
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    #238
    Wow, you got the Republican party platform down to a science Son !!! :)
     
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  19. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #239
    Those are your credible sources? And on top of that, none confirm that it hasn't been authenticated? Surely you are not trying to be dishonest again? I did read these. The last one simply refers to the second one (quality sources, eh?). A request for information under the FOIA is not an admission of non-authentication. I'm almost surprised you'd try to pawn this off as such. Do facts not matter?

    Team Liberty, huh?

    Shall I requote what Mr. Tomb previously said?

    Is that your website with the photo you are posting, or are you stealing someone else's bandwidth?
     
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  20. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #240
    there are also many sources and quotes from bin laden himself saying he wasnt responsible for 9-11. Bin laden has always claimed responsibility for every terrorist act he has done including the ss cole but i agree with aletheids, there is more than one enemy out there. Im just glad im not naive to accept word out there blindly. Star wars revenge of the sith was a perfect example of why we shouldnt follow every word of any government as bible fact. I agree we should catch bin laden but we should catch every other terrorist out there as well
     
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