Sep 11th a mastermind of the USA ?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ezguy, Jul 22, 2007.

  1. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #201
    It is? Passports were found at every crash site. Effects were found on dead bodies at crash sites. Undamaged luggage, papers, etc were found on planes too. Fire doesn't destroy everything. Thinking that it does makes things easy for you; but its not so. Planes don't stop when they hit a building either. Momentum - please look into it.

    I'd believe anything the nist believes? I'm sorry that I believe in science instead of wild eyed conspiracy theories.

    Unless you can come up with actual -facts- and not speculation or something that isn't grounded in real science. I'm sorry, but reality wins here.
     
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  2. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #202
    I believe Lorien addressed this. Denial was your preferred method as I recall. My point stands the same. It doesn't need to be re-summarized.

    Thank you for this alarming information! It does indeed seem to prove bin laden was behind 9/11. Additionally, it raises a question if his family has been funding him, after noting he was disowned.

    So now you do believe bin laden was behind 9/11? You can't really have it both ways, can you? You argue in favor, on his behalf previously, but then in a sudden twist of fate, you now argue that he was responsible and someone raising questions about his family proves it!

    Could I hope for anything better? You actually took the time to prove yourself wrong on my behalf :D
     
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  3. ROAR

    ROAR Well-Known Member Affiliate Manager

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    #203
    It was the Mexicans. Cant you see it? CR wants to go imperial on your ass and Mexico lost their spine to defend NAFTA. So the Switzerland of Central America is coming. Coming to get you. Be scared.
     
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  4. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #204
    Aaarggghhh! Don't say that! I just finished eating a combination burrito from Taco Bell :D
     
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  5. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #205
    Dammit Gtech. You, mexican food and farting. It's like the trilateral commission from hell.
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #206
    anyone see the recent article today from the (I believe NY Post, I might be wrong though)?? It "responded" to Bush's speach yesterday. It called Al Qaida "Bin Laden's group"...why not refer to them as terrorists or Islamic extremists?? Why a "group"? Gotta love the drive by media...
     
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  7. aletheides

    aletheides Banned

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    #207
    No summary necessary, just a simple yes or no would suffice really. Wait... I think I have your answer which was...

    Ah yes, the angled cut corners are just an opinion... In laymens terms does this jumble mean that you think they are the result of the building falling???

    If you could point to the place in the article where it proves Bin Laden was behind 9/11 I would absolutely love to see it, since I am having trouble finding it now...

    Where?

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    "The offices of his Geneva-based Saudi Investment Company (Sico) and his properties near Cannes were searched by the authorities, "just like that, on the strength of suspicion," he says. In early 2001, he registered the name "Bin Laden" as a trademark. He planned to establish a fashion house that would sell Bin Laden jeans but then, heeding the advice of friends, he abandoned the idea after 9/11: "After the incidents in New York, it would have been seen as a label in poor taste."

    He developed a new business idea in the fall of 2004, a line of perfume. It's named "Yeslam," after its inventor and, according to its advertising, marries the scents of jasmine and lilies of the valley with an underlying note of sandalwood. In ads for the perfume, this combination of scents produces "a penetrating but gentle message for those who yearn for inner peace." The company plans to sell 60,000 bottles to its peace-loving customers.

    On Sept. 20, 2001, the "bin Laden jet" took off from St. Louis, making stops in Los Angeles, Orlando, Washington and Boston. At each stop, the plane picked up more half-brothers, nephews, nieces and cousins of public enemy number one. At that point, the FBI had already begun investigating two of the bin Ladens who were flown out of the country. They both lived in Falls Church, a suburb of Washington, and were officials in the "World Assembly of Muslim Youth."
     
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  8. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #208
    That's what I said. Next time, don't do it.

    I've commented several times on this fiction. Unfortunately I can't help you grasp that concept.

    No need to, you've already done it. One one hand, you seek to give aid and comfort to terrorists by trying to absolve them of their crimes. Then you posted an article about bin laden's family and asserted they were all as guilty as bin laden.

    Which is it? Do you believe bin laden was behind it, or not? If you need some time to consult with alex jones, I understand. It must be difficult to think for yourself.
     
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  9. aletheides

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    #209
    Nice moves Jackson! Now I see why they call you twinkle toes.

    The point is (you missed it) if the bin ladens are so guilty, why are they flying them away and giving them special treatment/protections? You mentioned that the family disowned Osama, while that article clearly debunks your statement.
     
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  10. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #210
    Incorrect again. Why are you avoiding the question?

    You presented the story to assert the bin laden family was as guilty as bin laden for 9/11. But you also believe bin laden was not responsible. An exceptional demonstration of cognitive dissonance.

    Once again...Which is it? Do you believe bin laden was behind it, or not?
     
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  11. aletheides

    aletheides Banned

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    #211
    Wrong - I presented the story because of your belief that the bin ladens disowned Osama, which they clearly have not.. (debunkage)

    And for the record no I don´t believe Osama Bin Laden is the reason behind 9/11. Unlike others around here (maybe you twinkle toes) I am not afraid to clearly state where I stand when it comes to issues like these.

    Of course, according to the FBI there clearly isn´t enough evidence to link Osama to what happend during 9/11 - correct me if I am wrong ;)

    Rex Tomb, the FBI's Chief of Investigative Publicity, is reported to have said, "The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden's Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11."

    Toot toot...
     
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  12. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    #212
    Bin Laden was definately behind it because Bush and the mainstream media said he was.

    Case closed. Move on sheeple.
     
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  13. aletheides

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    #213
    Crap - I completely forgot about that!

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  14. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #214
    Incorrect again. In fact, the story acknowledges the bin ladens disowned him.

    Aid and comfort to terrorists. bin laden would be disappointed you are trying to deny his virgins after he's already claimed responsibility for it.

    I do enjoy watching outright denial in action though :D
     
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    #215
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  16. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #216
    Actually, your buddy said he was.
     
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    #217
    Congrats GTech.

    If it was in The Telegraph then it definately has to be true! :D
     
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  18. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #218
    Your buddy would be proud of the extensive lengths you go to, to protect him.

    Of course you'll deny the video bin laden made taking responsibility. You want him to do the same thing over and over and over again to kill as many infidels as possible. White folks deserve to die!
     
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  19. aletheides

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    #219
    Yes, this is what I call acknowledgement:

    "Carmen bin Laden, a sister-in-law of the terrorist, who lived with the extended family in Jeddah for years, says, "I absolutely do not believe that the bin Ladens disowned Osama. In this family, a brother is always a brother, no matter what he has done. I am convinced that the complex and tightly woven network between the bin Laden clan and the Saudi royal family is still in operation."
    Your link is a little outdated buddy: Last Updated: 12:41am GMT 11/11/2001

    How about something a little more recent:
    http://911review.org/Media/Bin-Laden-Not-Wanted-for_9_11.html

    "He spoke with Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI. When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Ladens Most Wanted web page, Tomb said, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Ladens Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11."

    "A CIA unit that had hunted for Usama bin Laden and his top deputies for a decade has been disbanded, according to a published report. Citing unnamed intelligence officials, The New York Times reported Tuesday that the unit, known as "Alec Station," was shut down late last year. The decision to close the unit, which predated the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, was first reported Monday by National Public Radio. (Source: Associated Press, July 4, 2006)

    This means both the CIA and FBI don’t consider as reliable evidence the confession video released in December 2001 in which a character we’re told is Bin Laden is celebrating the attacks! Notice the main-stream media hasn’t reported on this.

    Toot toot...

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  20. aletheides

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    #220
    We really don´t have to when the FBI and CIA can do it for us. :D
     
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