actually it does........since the media at that time publicized this news vibrantly and this was added to the reasoning that the attackers were arab-nationals and they have contacts with al-qaeda. this same strategy was applied to iraq too by publicizing the hoax of WMD time and time again by both the us media and bush administration. But after the invasion on Iraq what happened. Dividing Iraq in two states by marketing the concept of civil war going on in iraq. Its all part of the bigger game planned a decade ago. BTW . I am neutral here. Bad eggs are on both sides. Peace
Well, GTech, d16man and people like these two will never ever answer your questions. Infact they don't have answers to these simple questions. They will just copy paste your post and ask you what, why, where? Yes they claim they all know about 9/11. coldfire7 You answered d16man question but he is still blind and can't read anything against his ignorant thoughts. look at his reply
It's called being an attention seeking signature spamming troll man, that is the entire hustle and these guys work it in precision tag team fashion. Ask them about renting signature links and their reputation scams, see if they answer that !!!!!
Did you see all the paper on the streets? How about the other items from the planes that were found on the streets?
It proves and questions the very fact that, IF a thin paper-plastic made passport can be found unharmed than why not the most most most important thing -> BlackBox(s) of the jet that hit the wtc. Life would be easier if they had found the blackboxes out of the ruble.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satam_al-Suqami#_note-ginsburg Did you need any further assistance here? It's not implausible that small objects would survive. Do you remember how much paper and debris was coming down from the towers? Luggage, effects and passports were found on people from the pentagon crash as well.
Do u remember the reasoning being made for the COLLAPSE of the two towers. On the impact of the jetairline with the tower, the fuel burnt temperature was so intense and high that it melted the middle structural steel reaching more or above 2000F (although un-fireproofed steel will not melt until reaching red-hot temperatures of nearly 3000F). But the important miniature-objects like passport can survive!!!
Lots of items survived. I'm not sure what your point is. Given that the plane was the first object into the building (the fire followed after the tanks ruptured) and that other parts of the cockpit were found on the street. Parts of a stewardess, with her hands still bound, were found outside the towers too. The momentum of the plane carried a lot of objects out of the building escaping the flames. I'm not sure how you think this is unbelievable? Passports were found in the flight 93 wreckage, passports, luggage, papers were found at the pentagon that belonged to passengers/terrorists as well. Even in a normal house fire, it's not abnormal for some objects not to be signed at all even though they were in the middle of the inferno. Steel loses 50% of its integrity at about 1400 degrees or so. The fires were about 1800 or so, right? Don't mindlessly believe what you read online. Fire does make steel more malleable before it melts (ask any samurai sword maker). Melting is not necessary and has always been an argument for those incapable of thinking independently.
FACT # 1 The United States claimed to invade IRAQ based on the reason that the country had weapons of mass destruction despite the fact that Hans Blix stated that there were none after visiting Iraq and then Bush never found any. FACT #2 Have you forgotten ANTHRAX. The Muslims were supposed to have started that weren't they. But then when it was proven that a senator had started the whole game, the US quickly hushed down and made it seem as if the whole episode never happened. Only the reader digest had enough balls to cover the story and show that the senator had purposely framed Muslims for it. Really, if US senators can do this, who knows what is possible. There is much more than meets the eye. And it is sad to see that some people just choose to turn a blind eye toward everything and anything that goes against their wishes and ideals.
I assume you are now dropping the "passport as a smoking gun" line of conversation and moving onto a new one? This would be a typical tactic - change the target without acknowledging the refutation of the previous point. Is this the case? I suggest you look at the nist.gov link they provided. They are making a faulty claim as to what it states. Author states: If you look at the wtc.nist.gov link; it is narrowly focused on a few floors (the impact floors, I believe). The link is not making any general analysis of the entire building; which is what the author is trying to make you believe. Here's something a little more complete for your browsing: http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm This paper you link to, as usual, is taking a selective look at things without looking at other things to draw a conlusion. Don't make yourself look silly by doing this. Please think about this a little bit. Samurai sword makers know that fire can make steel more malleable; surely you can see the common sense there. Steel Girters aren't grown in giant fields in Nebraska.
right. GTech and team are the people whose eyes are closed, they can't listen and can't see. Their hearts are locked with hate for Muslims.
Ok I can try it again and so that there is no way you can see it as a "false question". The angled cut corners - do you believe that they are the result of the buildings collapse and happend in a natural way or do you believe that they are man made? Right, because the name of the folder it is in immediately removes any and all credibility - we are in a webmaster forum here right? I took a good minute reading over what you have showed me but it´s very difficult to garner any useful information out of wildly offtopic posts. Can you debunk this or will you do a little jig again? "The Saudi Arabian relatives of Osama bin Laden were also investors in Carlyle until October 2001 when the family sold its $2.02 million investment back to the firm in light of the public controversy surrounding bin Laden’s family after the terrorist attack on September 11, 2001." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_Group What is your stance on this issue? Do you believe that the Bush family and the Bin Laden family had no business relations, and that this information is not fact?
This would be playing the victim card. I see you are still too lazy to go back and do what you demand of me. I do thank you though, for proving my point about lazy "troofers" ("troofers" are not a word for muslims, btw, it's a name for young angry white males with low IQs who seek to give aid and support to terrorists by attempting to absolve them of their crimes). Surely allah would not pleased with you "shirking" your responsibilties? He is a muslim, therefore he believes he is entitled to victimhood status. Dr. Sanity covers this in his Practical Guide to Victimhood. Instead of going back and putting in his effort, doing his fair part, it's easier to play the victim to mask his laziness. I don't believe it's an issue in the first place. My comment still stands: An "open mind" would have caught that. You seem drawn to "conspiracy" type websites. Have you ever considered doing your own thinking? Pretend it was one of your conspiracy references. Then you would find the information quite useful and wouldn't have to resort to tactical denial. Are you suggesting that the "bin laden family" who had disowned "osama" be held accountable for their relative's actions? You are doing what muslims often point out here...blaming "all" the bin laden family, who had disowned osama, for his actions. The "bin laden" family is a large family. Why do you seek to blame "all" of them, for the actions of one? That is better than you believing anything alex jones and other conspiracy nuts tell you. This is a poor excuse for dismissing facts. Your point is to say "only conspiracy nut's evidence counts against the government and actual government evidence that refutes such isn't acceptable." Very poor position.
As was pointed out early on in the thread, they are not interested in "facts." They simply move from one point to the next to the next. I previously asked: "At what point to those who let the likes of alex jones do their thinking, and continue to be proven that "his" facts are simply wrong, do those who suggest "we" question everything the government says, start questioning what the likes of alex jones and other nuts say?" Apparently they have double standards. In a lazy manner, they simply cut and paste what others have told them to think, as if it is some magic evidence that their buds are innocent, but they refuse to question it. Facts do not matter. Giving aid and comfort to terrorists (the magnificent 19 as they are referred to in mosques) by trying to absolve them of their crimes and virgins matter. It's such a predictable pattern, we can note it before action even begins, the simply sit back and watch "them" prove us right...time and time and time again
So essentially you don´t care about the angled corners and you believe that they were caused naturally? "But have they really broken with the mega-terrorist? Recently revealed classified documents seem to suggest otherwise. Osama's violent career has been made possible in part by the generosity of his family -- and by his contacts with the Saudi royals." http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,359690,00.html