Can Christians have more than one Wife???

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Ckrismoney, Jul 20, 2007.

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  1. fsmedia

    fsmedia Prominent Member

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    #41
    I am very interested to see which Bible you were reading. No where in my Bible does it say that.
     
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    #42
    You could start with a search for "one wife" and you find stuff like this

    If you are honestly seeking read a few of the books of the Bible or do a word search for wife, wives, marriage, husband, etc and the picture is quite clear.
     
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    #43
    You can, but you have to divorce someone and then marry someone else.

    One wife at a time. You can't double or triple up. Also the bible was written by people way back before such rules were developed. It was decided later on that you cannot devote yourself to more than one person in true love. That's why more than one wife was banned. Plus its called cheating on someone you love.
     
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    Realm Well-Known Member

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    #44
    aren't you supposed to change the bible to fit your needs?
     
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  5. Ckrismoney

    Ckrismoney Well-Known Member

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    #45
    Why would GOD give rules for it if it was not okay WITH HIM !!!



    Okay all start in Deut. (Old Test.)

    Deuteronomy 21:15

    15 If a man has two wives,and he loves one and not the other,and both bear him sons but the firstborn is the son of the wife he does not love,

    16 When he wills his property to his sons,he must not give the rights of the firstborn to the son of the wife he loves in preference to his actual firstborn,the son of the wife he does not love.

    17 He must acknowledge the son of his unloved wife as the firstborn...

    Now Leviticus ( Old Test.)

    Leviticus 18:18

    18 Do not take your wifes sister as a rival wife and lay with her while your wife is living.


    Now Matthew 25 ( New Test.)

    1. Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.

    2. And five of them were wise, and five [were] foolish.

    3. They that [were] foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:

    4. But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.

    5. While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.

    6. And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.

    7. Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.

    8. And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.

    9. But the wise answered, saying, [Not so]; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.

    10. And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

    11. Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.

    12. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.



    Now that is JESUS Himself Speaking.

    He would not have compared the kindom of Heaven Coming as a man who came to choose wives if it was a sin to have more than one.

    I can think of a lot of other things the smartest being alive could have said, so i know HE could have said something else.


    Here's why I think so many people think it's wrong.

    People listen to preachers who have a church full of people with pre build values based on what other people think is right.

    And alot of preachers will say what they need to to keep the coins in the basket.

    They do not want to upset those women and men who pay every sunday to hear what they PAID to hear.
     
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    #46
    What on earth are you on about man? Are you on drugs? Seriously. You are way off there buddy. You are trying to make something out of nothing here.

    What I said is easily found in the Bible.

    Col :)
     
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    #47
    Where in the Bible would I find the following? The dates are well know as end of the world prophecies dates from the Watchtower but they are not Biblical dates.

     
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    #48
    He didn't say it was OK, he only mentioned it in an illustration or acknowledged that people do it. If I give an example to my child that included mentioning a guy robbing a bank, I am not implying that bank robbing is approved.

    What is your goal here? Do you want more than one wife? Do you think you are going to persuade people much more studied than you and change doctrine that has been common for 2000 years?
     
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    #49
    Ummm...you do know it is 2007 this year don't you?? You will find your resources are well out of date. Fair enough decades ago the Watchtower Society alluded to the fact that some certain years in our past may have been the "conclusion of the system of things" as Jesus mentioned in the gospels. However, since those years have passed, more light has come to be shown in regards to this prophecy from the book of Revelation and the gospels.

    Jesus in fact stated "“Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father" in Mark 13:32. There is no possible way that any human could have known the end of this system of things.

    The Watchtower Society acknowledges this and has moved on. Have you? This is in regards to Revelation. Meaning God is the Revealer of Secrets. Sacred Secrets in fact. What is known now could not have been known back in 1914-1918. The same applies to the book of Revelation. The apostle John did not know what these things shown to him meant. He even said so. He could only describe what he saw and heard in the visions that were given to him.

    Science is no different to this. Look at how many things were labeled 50 years ago and now how we see them today. All because we have the tools with us today to analyse and study more closely than we ever could.

    Do you, as a Christian, have it in your heart, to forgive ones who made a mistake in the past? If you do, then you would forgive those, who were trying their best to do the will of God just as the Bible teaches them to do so. If you do not forgive them, then you are going directly against the teachings of Jesus in Matthew 6:14-15.

    As far as the dates are concerned. There are many books that refer to certain events in history that are also found in the Bible. Mathematically, it is quite easy to do the math and add years to certain events to bring it to 1914.

    Ask and I shall provide evidence.

    Col :)
     
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    #50
    It nice that they have given you some new responses to handling the false prophecies. My brother-in-laws father was trying to recruit him into the Watchtower before 1975 (I believe that was the last time the Watchtower predicted the end of the world). He read the Bible cover to cover and conclude that the Watchtower was not Biblical and said he would not join the Watchtower and waited to see if the world ended.

    Has the Watchtower come out and directly said "we have in the past predicted the end of the world on certain dates and we repent of it and won't do it again." or do they just give the spin that you gave?
     
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    #51
    I dont think having more than one wife is legal in the uk and is not legally binding
     
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    #52
    Why would Christians care if it's "legal" in the UK? The Bible tells to obey God rather than man
     
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    #53
    At least you got one thing correct, so even in places where it would be legal a Christian would still only have one wife.
     
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    #54
    I didn't say that. The Bible tells not to obey foreign Gods, that includes Tony Blair. I don't know about UK, but in the US it would be impossible to be in compliance with God's law and local laws, all 2.5 million of them, at the same time.
    Why would you want a marriage license from government anyway? In Christianity, marriage is done by act of penetration, not by signing a contract with the government
     
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    #55
    Who teaches you this stuff or is it from that muslim site?

    Tony blair isn't a god, he is a man.

    Most of the U.S. laws do not infringe against a Christian - yet. Most laws in the US have come from Christian beliefs to some degree or another. They are changing now, but a law that would allow homosexual marriages/union does not affect me personally, since I don't plan on using that law. Now if the law banned the Bible, I would end up braking that man's law now wouldn't I.

    Marriage is not done by the act of penetration, but the act would be the final seal. I am guessing that comes from a site that says the Jewish father tests his daughters virginity?? Am I right?
     
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    #56
    No one, it's all in the Bible, KJ version. It doesn't make sense to listen to preachers, because Bible says that there is going to be a lot of imposteurs and a lot of people will be deceived
     
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    #57
    We have to obey God rather than man
     
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    #58
    You sure are a confused person. What you have shown so far is you can take a few verses out of context and try to make them say what you want to believe. Go ahead get multiple wives, I think that part is up to you now isn't it. Just don't try to use the Bible as your defense because it won't help you.
     
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    #59
    It sounds like its a good thing to have more than one wife , but realistically its not a good idea at all. Think about all the crap you'll go thru and multiply that by whatever number of wives you have.
     
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    #60
    Not all women are the type that think giving crap is okay.
    Some want to please there man more than anything else. If they are okay with their husband having other wives they would have to be very understanding or very desperate.

    The second is the one you don't want.
     
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