Sep 11th a mastermind of the USA ?

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  1. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #81
    Incorrect. You explained alex jones modified thoughts. And your thoughts mention nothing about running away from facts, which you have done again.

    My facts were straight. They corrected the thinking that you allowed others to do for you. I noticed you avoided this question:

    aletheides, at what point to you start questioning the false questions and accusations that people like alex jones and john conners sucker young angry gullible white males with?

    I can't imagine why. Apparently you are not willing to do what I suggest.

    What he provided was correct.

    I agree. The entire premise of the question you posed was an assumption that it was in fact, correct. As I noted, I found nothing validating this claim anywhere, nor have you established it is fact.

    For example, if I said:

    "Why did osama bin laden eat fried shrimp with AGS on January 18, 2005?"

    Would it be unreasonable of you to immediately try to prove it wrong, or would it be more reasonable for you to establish the validity of the question in the first place?

    Wouldn't want facts to get in the way of lunacy, would we? Doesn't alex jones have a web page for telling his sheep what to think about the cockpit recordings? Surely someone's tried to make some money off of it?
     
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    aletheides Banned

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    #82
    I must admit you are very good at taking a decent debate and turning it into some kind of off base flame war. I wonder if we will ever get back on topic or will you just keep spitting hatred and beating the alex jones thing to death?

    aletheides, at what point to you start questioning the false questions and accusations that people like alex jones and john conners sucker young angry gullible white males with?

    I avoided this question because it had idioms in it like "false questions" and really can´t be answered with any degree of seriousness.

    So, according to the link provided it is your sincere belief that the angled colums are the result of iron workers cutting them at angles?

    Maybe we can touch on the Bush and Bin Laden business relationships ? That would be a fun one - would you care to debunk it for me?

    "When President George W. Bush froze assets connected to Osama bin Laden, he didn't tell the American people that the terrorist mastermind's late brother was an investor in the president's former oil business in Texas. He also hasn't leveled with the American public about his financial connections to a host of shady Saudi characters involved in drug cartels, gun smuggling, and terrorist networks.

    Doing business with the enemy is nothing new to the Bush family. Much of the Bush family wealth came from supplying needed raw materials and credit to Adolf Hitler's Third Reich. Several business operations managed by Prescott Bush - the president's grandfather - were seized by the US government during World War II under the Trading with the Enemy Act. " http://www.rense.com/general14/bushsformer.htm
     
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    AGS Notable Member

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    #83
    Read the link I included in my last post explaining my thoughts you numpty. :eek:

    Stop trying to twist things around all the time GTech.

    I seriously suggest that the Crazy Gang have a vote of no confidence in you and promote lorien to leader, he might be stupid but at least he reads links. :)
     
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    Realm Well-Known Member

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    #84
    how much are they paying you GTech? maybe you are the opposite of alex jones...you know the one that tries and supports that made up propaganda that they came up with quickly and actually knew who did it in matter of days...
     
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  5. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #85
    I don't believe asking to establish the credibility of questions that are presumed accurate is too much. I gave an example, but you seem to have avoided it again. The points you raised on behalf of others have been debunked. At what point do you begin to question those whose opinions you are copying/pasting here?

    So you agree that false questions cannot be answered with any degree of seriousness? Perhaps you are starting to see my point after all?

    Do you *honestly* (I know, I know...the alex jones and jeff rense crowd and "honesty" don't go together, but work with me) believe that is what I said? Even after I presented an illustration of asking a question that is presumed accurate?

    Sure, I'd be happy too. Considering your 9/11 myths were quickly debunked, I can understand how you' like to move on. Have facts had any influence in your opinions, or do facts still not matter?

    Will you first produce a credible source on this new issue, or like the others, will you copy/paste what others have written and presumed correct?

    Nevermind, I see you are not going for the credible source. Let's look at the front page of this very credible site you've chosen to let others know you let do your thinking for you:

    http://www.rense.com/

    Let's see:

    chocked full of ads to sucker money out of the gullible? Check!
    super natural physic powers? Check!
    mind bending paranormal experiences? Check!
    secret knowledge revealed? Check!
    ufo archieves? Check!
    9/11 lunacy? Check!
    medical lies and health secrets *they* don't want you to know about? Check!
    Cheney determined to strick in US with WMD? Check!
    More "alarmist" stories to keep the gullible coming back to click all the ads? Check!
    Ethnic Cleansing Of Americans In US Cities? Check!

    You really let these kind of sites do your thinking for you? And honestly want to use this as a reference? LMAO! Allrighty then :D
     
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  6. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #86
    Not nearly as many virgins as you'll probably get ;)
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #87
    I did. May I ask the same of you? Your (or should I say, alex jones') thoughts mention nothing about running away from facts, which you have done again.

    Divide and conquer is a time honored classic technique. Unfortunately, you simply do not realize there is nothing to divide. It's just another conspiracy in your mind ;)
     
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    Realm Well-Known Member

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    #88
    I got one word for you, go read a book...and no, I am not married nor I got a girl ;)

    p.s. why did you ignore the other part? not a man to handle the truth?
     
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    AGS Notable Member

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    #89
    LMFAO GTech!

    Have you seen Bush's butt buddy Bill O'Reillys site, exactly the same LMFAO.

    Bill O is even trying to skank people $39.95 for a crappy "no spin dad" polo shirt.

    You're a deluded hypocrite GTech, that's what you are. ;)
     
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  10. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #90
    Time for a pop quiz. 1 word + 1 word + 1 word = How many words? Go ahead, you can use the windows calculator if you need to. Hint...the answer is not 72 virgins ;)

    Because it was merely an unsubstantiated opinion.
     
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    Realm Well-Known Member

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    #91

    that was a typo, go get some knowledge first;)

    oh really? stop with the excuses man, we know that you support your own propaganda...The GTech propaganda:D trying to make everything fit your agenda...
     
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  12. aletheides

    aletheides Banned

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    #92
    False question = idiom = no such thing as a false question. Do we need to go back to school?




    Is this your way of dancing around the question or will you really answer it? What do you believe caused the angled cuts? Do you believe it was iron workers after the towers collapsed?




    Once again tooting your own victory horn a little too early in the game, soldier.

    I will produce a credibile source as well as doing a little bit of copy pasting:

    "Sept. 11/2001
    The attack occurs. The morning of the attack George Bush Sr. is meets with members of the Carlyle Group in Washington. Bin Laden's own brother is at the meeting. Members of the Bin Laden family are allowed to leave the U.S. without questioning two days later."

    Care to debunk?
     
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  13. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #93
    Careful. Last time someone used "butt buddy," Chant had a big sissy fit and ran crying to the moderators. But he has double standards, so you probably have nothing to worry about ;)

    So you are upset that he's not offering a "Go al Qaida!" shirt?

    Classic projectionism!

    Volume 4, Book 52, Number 251:
     
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    Realm Well-Known Member

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    #94
    wow, GTech, throwing things out of context again...that really shows how smart you are;)
     
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    #95
    I like the way you always revert to Alex Jones or 72 virgins these days GTech, you are seriously losing the plot man!

    Call a "crazy gang" emergency meeting A.S.A.F.P and get the gang together, bounce some original ideas about. Hey, even the new recruit DevilHellz would make a better leader because although he is crazy he has original ideas. You have burnt yourself out in P&R forum mate. :(

    Defending corrupt scumbags like Bush and Cheney has really taken it's toll on you and that's upsetting because P&R needs people like you even though you are batting for the devil.

    You "try" and torch everyone that comes along with the same crappy copy and paste rhetoric.

    If I were you I would demote yourself, get lorien in as leader (he's been hankering for the position for months and months now), put d16man as 2IC, drop Mia because his posts have been awful of late, expel Will Spenser because he's just not dedicated to the crazy gang cause anymore, promote The Webmaster and DevilHellz up the ranking (even though The Webmaster is a complete clone of you) and take a back seat buddy. Kick back with a bottle of Bud and wash your Dubya Bush duvet cover and pillowcase. :)

    Control things from behind the scene, think of yourself as a Dick Cheney if you will!
     
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    aletheides Banned

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    #96
    You read my mind.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #97
    You may need to, but I'm fine.

    Once again, your question was a false question. It's structured such that it is presumed to be accurate. Establish the credibility first.

    No dancing. Merely pointing out your flaw again. Your question was based upon the premise that what it proposes is correct. At no time did I offer such. I've given repeated examples of this, but apparently you are unable to grasp this. If you want to suggest I said something, which I certainly did not, you might try a different angle. You might try a little integrity (heh, yeah, right :rolleyes: ) as well.

    Not at all. Just stating something you are apparently unfamiliar with...fact.


    Work with me here...you present a url with "conspiracytheories/saudi.html" in it as credible evidence?

    Let's save some time here...see this page/post:

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=274026&page=6
     
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    Realm Well-Known Member

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    #98
    dude, you use tons of sources that were written by some nutjobs and think they are credible...totally BS man
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #99
    If you were me, you would:

    place value upon integrity
    not let alex jones do your thinking
    actually participate in debate and backup your claims instead of running and/or acting as a cheerleader for those who do the work for you
    not support terrorists
    not seek sympathy and support for terrorists
    not support Jewish genocide and defend those who repeated call for such

    But you are not me, so you do those things.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #100
    Incorrect. In fact, as you demonstrate your religious dishonesty, on the page I sourced...that you made this comment in reference to, I sourced no external links at all.

    Have you ever considered thinking before posting?

    Right now, we have:

    1) dishonest person, claiming I said things I haven't, refusing to establish credibility of claims in debate and source conspiratorial web sites.

    2) the resident cheerleader cheering on the person doing the work (pointed this habit out several times so far, and he's living up to that)

    3) some goof trying diversionary tactics and dishonesty to take the heat off # 1)

    Anyone care to get back to the actual debate? Quick, someone copy/paste a ton of false questions drummed up by a *for profit* conspiracy theorest in a lazy manner :rolleyes:
     
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