Taliban execute 2 German Hostages

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  1. login

    login Notable Member

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    #21
    Hey boy, its not talibans country, the country belongs to the people and there is a government.
    So you say that we should not fight against what is wrong? Do you approve the Taliban?
     
    login, Jul 22, 2007 IP
  2. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #22
    His username is a major clue:D
     
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  3. Idiot Inside

    Idiot Inside Well-Known Member

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    #23
    Do you really know who Taliban are? We live in neighbor of Afghanistan and have been bearing more than 1 million Afghan refugees, and any talks to these refugees confirms that more than 95% of Taliban are Pashtuns and from Afghanistan.

    From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban

    So, its a group basically lead and ran by Pashtuns .. An ethinic group from lower part of Afghanistan, with a strength of more than 42% of total Afghan population.

    Who are you to decide what is right and what is wrong in another country? Do you think you are God's Army and have duty to interfere in any countries' internal affair and correct it, if by any chance its incorrect.

    Its same as your someone from your city jump into your home, kill a couple of children and adults and then try to justify his action by saying something wrong was going on in this house.

    In short, having problem with about 12,000 Taliban does gave you license to mass kill innocent people.

    I do not approve people or groups, I approve and disapprove their acts and actions.

    I do not approve any terrorism lead by any extremist. Islamic or non-Islamic, Talibanic or non-Talbanic.

    Do you approve bombing on city area and killing of civilians by allied forces?





    PS. I just remember one old proverb, Might is Right .. and yeah, its very true. Allied forces are in greater power in every aspect like warfare, media etc. So, their every action must be right.
     
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    login Notable Member

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    #24
    Thank you for the information about the taliban movement.

    I dont think that anyone here are in doubt that I criticise the Taliban movement because want to rule by the sharia laws. Yes, I think that the sharia law is wrong and unfair to humanity and should be fighted with all methods except killing civilians. If the Taliban movement did not use the sharia law I would approve the Taliban movement.

    Again, Afghanistan need an legally elected government and people will not elect the Taliban to rule he country again. There was to much suffering when Taliban was in power.
     
    login, Jul 22, 2007 IP
  5. Idiot Inside

    Idiot Inside Well-Known Member

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    #25
    *sigh* ... noted your statement in bold?

    Mate, If someone, or some Government, outside of a country (which also have no relation with that country) thinks something is wrong in that country, should that Govt. attack that country?

    Come on friend. Whole world would be in war this way. Right and Wrong are relative terms, something right for you is may be wrong for me and vice versa.

    You also did not addressed to my example in above post.

    I have no problem with what Taliban were trying to implement in their own country, enforcing shria law or whatever. And why would I have any problem when its not my country? Its theirs' and they know what to do.

    I only have problem if they back and support any terrorist organization, because it can effect peace of world as a whole. This is my reason of not approving them.

    * My country, Pakistan, is also a part of allied forces .. and law-and-order situation in Pakistan is way bad than it was before 2001.

    * Same with UK, it was quite peaceful place to live .. but after UK decided to support US attack on Afghanistan and Iraq (and kill civilians) .. they started to target UK with bombs and stuff.

    * Now look at Germany, Taliban were in power quite before 2001 .. did they make any German hostage and killed later? No.
    They are doing it now, because Germany is also supporting US action and sending troops to Afghanistan. And its obvious, they are not there to distribute roses.

    No one notices that why Taliban didn't make hostage and demand something from a country who is not involved in invasion?

    Now, moral of the story: Invade other countries, bomb and kill their citizens and get ready to see their come-back.

    So, whats the point in ranting on killing of 2 Germans?
     
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    #26
    You are saying that someone should not care about any wrongdoings if it does not happen in their own country? Would you approve your government if they wanted to rule Pakistan by the sharia laws ?

    Afghanistan is NOT the talibans country. Afghanistan is the afghan peoples country and remember, in a legal election Taliban would NOT be elected as government by the people.

    What example did I not address in your above post ? I said that sharia law is wrong and unfair to humanity and should be fighted with all methods except killing civilians.
     
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  7. skibladner

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    #27
    The majority of Afghans are Pakhtun and VERY RELIGIOUS. Therefore it is impossible for there to be a govt. that does not atleast CLAIM to implement the Sharia in Afghanistan. Even Karzai's Govt. has promised to implement the Sharia.

    As for the Germans - good riddance.
     
    skibladner, Jul 22, 2007 IP
  8. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #28
    Can't have any dirty kafir over there trying to help, huh? They were working with Afghans on a dam project, not soldiers. But it doesn't matter to you...they are just infidels :rolleyes:
     
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    #29
    So, it's ok if Germans are killed? Just so long as it is not the Taliban that get hurt? I thought some of your posts were because you were upset about the loss of human life. I guess for you if they are non-muslim their life doesn't matter?
     
    Rebecca, Jul 23, 2007 IP
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    #30
    When you come riding in on tanks with soldiers and help setup puppet regimes, expect to be treated as soldiers.
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #31
    The germans were not soldiers. What about all the women they kidnapped as well? Do you approve of them killing them as well?
     
    Rebecca, Jul 23, 2007 IP
  12. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #32
    That wasn't the case though. As much as your religious dishonesty would like to believe it is. They were engineers, working with local Afghans, on a dam project to make it better.

    But don't let me stop you. I'm alway happen when someone exposes themselves for what they really are.
     
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    #33
    ^ Would you want help to walk all across the plains then?
    Military support doesn't mean destruction all the time, it's for their protection...

    Also how can you support injust riddance of others, and then probably get mad when it happens to your own people..?
     
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    #34
    Here is a profile of a german engineer. The live with invading troops, travel around with invading troops.

    In Afghanistan there are invaders and there are invading troops. When invading troops kill people that is wrong, when invading troops are killed that is good.
     
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    #35
    So killing is good as long as it is in a certain context? Feel free to expand your definition of when killing is "good".
     
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    #36
    Let's recap:) What skibladner has said...

    1. He is for Taliban killing innocent people
    2. He is against American soldiers fighting against them

    Unbelievable.
     
    Rebecca, Jul 23, 2007 IP
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #37
    unless of course you are against the USA, then there has to be rules...such as the CIA torture thread that was just started....everything is acceptable till the USA does it...:confused:
     
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    #38
    WRONG

    I'm against western troops invading Afghanistan.
    I'm for Afghanis killing Western troops.

    I've given my reasons upthread why German civil engineers would be included among invading western troops.
     
    skibladner, Jul 23, 2007 IP
  19. gerritpoel

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    #39
    German civil engineers, what have they ever done do anyone?
    Get the word civil? Get the word engineer?

    Quite frankly, either you lack all higher intellectual faculties or you are just plain morbid...
     
    gerritpoel, Jul 23, 2007 IP