The religion of peace attacks Hindu pilgrims in Indian Kashmir

One person died and 15 were wounded in an attack by suspected Islamic militants on Hindu pilgrims trekking to a revered cave shrine in Indian Kashmir, an official said.

The grenade attack occurred Tuesday evening near the entrance to a mountain camp, and a local Kashmiri died of his injuries in hospital Wednesday morning, senior shrine official Madan Mantoo told AFP.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/2007071...70718065756;_ylt=Amz7m6Lli6dM3zQCIY6WKts1NXcA

 

How is your campaign against Islam coming on here? I think you might just be wasting your time if you look at your audience

 

ly2, do you know anything about the history of Kashmir?

 

another rant against muslims he is trying to give bad name to rest of americans. Ignore him please.

 

I thought I was the only one

 

america is not a muslim nation by the way

 

I take that as a no...

 

I believe that region should declare independance from both India and Pakistan. Haven't they been fighting for like 60 years, and neither country has been able to come to some peaceful solution?

 

I take it as you know too much about Kashmir, be my guest for any discussion...

And why so? That means Every country should declare every region independent that is terrorized.

 

I think since you are from India you probably have more knowledge about this situation than I do. But last week, I was trying to understand this whole situation. I searched and searched on the internet and found horrible atrocities committed from both sides. Yet, I read interviews from the people themselves in India controlled and Pakistan controlled regions and they are so tired of the whole thing and want peace so badly. It just gave me the impression, that maybe Pakistan and India couldn't get along. But maybe Kashmir could as one country united. Just a thought, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong

 

Rebecca is right. Both sides have killed each other in Kashmir. As usual, The Webmaster tries to pin it all on the Muslims. I have recommended to you and lorien that you should just replace your sig with 'I hate Muslims'. That way you dont need to post your regular Islam bashing here.

 

Let me put some facts for you.

in 1947 British India was divided in 3 parts, where 2 parts given to Muslims as they wanted it. The eastern Part was called East Pakistan and western part was called Pakistan.

India on the other hand, was formed on the basis of People's choice, there were many independent states, ruled by independent Kings/Nawabs.

Three of the all states decided to remain independent from India. Those were.
Goa (Under Portugal's rule) Hyderabad (Under Nizam's rule) and the State of Kashmir(Under a Hindu King)

Soon after devision Tribal Forces attacked The State of Kashmir(Completely backed and supported by Pakistani military). The State of Kashmir asked India to help. India in return asked him to accede to India first. The King agreed(The decision was supported by his Muslim Prime Minister, who was very concerned and popular within the people of Kashmir), The Majority of People in Kashmir welcomed the decision. An Agreement between India and the State of Kashmir was made, providing some very special privileges to people of Kashmir(The privileges are still given).

India sent its forces to successfully stop the tribal invasion. Pakistan managed to capture some parts of Kashmir, that remains in it's control and called POK.

The State of Kashmir was pretty stable and in peace under India's rule. and there wasn't any dispute.

But in 1971 Pakistan went through a massive shock, as it lost East Pakistan(as it became independent with India's help and now is called Bangladesh) and also lost the war on west side, even after the full support from US(US sent it's nuclear fleet, The Enterprise to threaten India).

And After 1971's defeat of Pakistan, Kashmir became unstable, and terrorist activities started. Pakistan backed up, trained, supported terrorist to spread terror in Kashmir and rest of the India.

Now this is the history of Kashmir. I'm sure many Pakistani fellows will jump and bash me saying Pakistan never supported Terrorism, but it doesn't change the facts.

I have nothing against the people of Pakistan. they sound pretty friendly these days.
but the situation wasn't the same back in 60s, 70s and 90s. Specially in 70s every single person in Pakistan held India responsible for the lost of East Pakistan, The gladly and willingly denied to see the sever atrocities on Bengali people in East Pakistan by Pakistani military. They denied to see the baseless arrest and execution of public elected leader of East Pakistan by then Pakistani dictator. So they wanted revenge. they wanted India to lose it's part as they did.

If people of Kashmir are not happy with India, how come there is a democratic govt. elected by people are ruling the state?

Do we hear anything from the POK? Is there any govt. in POK? No!!

Now you can see the difference.

 

Are you trying to crack me up? If that is the case your attempt was pathetic.

I'm trying to pin it all on the Muslims? Please show me where did I use the word Muslim in my post? Additionally provide a post where I said I hate Muslims?

Dude, do not try to read between lines.

 

WOW WOW WOW!

The Webmaster, I love the way you are misguiding the world. But trust me, I am not surprised. We have been seeing this face since 1957, even before.

I wish at least new generation of India become little less hypocrite.

You forgot the fucking:

* Memorandum on which your Mr. Prime Minister agreed while request UN to intervene and ceasefire in December 1948.

You also didn't mentioned war of 1965, you tried to tell people Pakistan came back to Kashmir all of the sudden after 1971. Was there nothing going on there since 1948? In the whole damn 23 years.

You gladly told people

but when the hell Kashmiri people were given choice? There Raja decided to be a part of India just because he was a Hindu, Do you seriously think that Raja OWNED the Kashmiris?

I'd like to mention that Raja was NOT an elected president, prime minister or king. Some previous Raja Dogra Gulab Singh purchased Kashmir from the British in 1846 for a sum of 7.5 million rupees.

Who on earth believe that a non-Elected Raja is able to decide the future of many million Kashmiris?

You also never mentioned why tribes etc. attacked Kashmir .. were they sick or what? If they were sick, they they choose Kashmir to attack not any part of India?
You will never find this answer in the history book they have been teaching you in India.

I am not telling you the answer, because you won't believe .. try to find some independent sources of that era. May be someone in England could help you with some old copies of Times of London. Don't forget to post if you find any.

Leave all shit, answer my one question ... why why why your govt. never let Kashmiris decide which country they want to be with?

Because, they know India will never win that pole and Kashmiri people will decide to be with Pakistan. If you have only 50% confidence, that poll must have been held somewhere in 50s.

OK, something wrong was going on between our politicians etc. Why the hell India interfered in East Pakistan? Do you think you people are from God and have duty to send your military to any country on the request of any fucking political or whatever group?

Ok, Raja of Kashmir was head of state .. when that calls you for help it makes some sense .. but whats the deal with your armed interference in East Pakistan? Who called you there?

I am not mentioning your Mukti Bahini yet.

At sometime, you were in same position with Sikhs in Punjab as Pakistan was with Bangalis in East Pakistan. Did we perform shameless character as you do in East Pakistan?
We could also make another Mukti Bahini, we could also send armed militants to help Sikhs with no problem of language, like you send in East Pakistan.

yada yada yada ...

there are heaps of history and things to debate .. but I am sure our discussion is not going to solve all the mess between Pakistan and India. Business of politicians on both sides will diminish if the mess is resolved.

I do not want and also do not have energy to debate on this topic, I was just trying to tell that you made a misleading and incomplete post. Either include each and every truth or leave the topic untouched.
you cannot sum up the all our disputes and their reasons of 60 years in 20 lines with 100% accuracy.

 

Someone might find this worth reading:

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNMOGIP

 

The kashmir religion is purely a dispute of religions. Let me try to tell you about the real cause and who are the effected parties.(Remember I am from Kashmir and an effected party...)
Jammu and Kashmir is divided in three parts .. Kashmir , Jammu and Ladkh. Kashmir has a majority of muslim population so has the problems. After Pan Islamic movement ( what started in Afghanistan , Russia, Iran etc.) , they also wanted to get rid of the Hindu country ( though it being a secular).The movement has been started ny the same people who have their links and roots to Al-qiada.
So the question is if kashmir ( out of J & K) want to be an Islamic nation , should they be free to do so? We in india have around 150 million muslims, what about them. Just because it has majority of muslims , should ait allowed to have a islamic state . India was borne on secular creadentials. If they want that it to be on religion basis why not to take 150 million muslims along.........

 

I differ here , no doubt we have a democratic setup there in Jammu and Kashmir . Majority of Muslims in Kashmir are not happy with India . That is unfortunately the case of Muslims in India on whole , the only difference being, in Kashmir they are in majority so open to their affiliations.

Weather people like it or not Muslims are only Muslims , true to their religion and nothing more. I laugh at people saying that majority of the Muslims do not have extreme mentalities, atleast the majority of the Muslims whom I know are people who support the extremism.

 

Kashmiris don't want to be a part of Pakistan.

At least India allows everyone to contest in J and K elections.

POK's constitution doesn't even allow people to stand in elections if they oppose the rule of Pakistan on Kashmir.

Pakistan talks about right of self determination and yet is not willing to give the same right to people of POK.

 

My campaign? I'm just making sure people see the news and love from the religion of peace.

 

It's never the fault of islam is it?
muslims always find someone or something to blame their barbaric behavior on.