Questions to the Muslims

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    I dint mean to make fun of your religion, i have a few questions, can you guys please answer!, these are serious doubts

    1) What is a soul as per islam
    2) Does god produce male soul, female soul and different souls for different species on earth?
    3)Does a male soul that goes to heaven gets some virgins? i read it somewhere
    4) does female souls go to heaven?
    5) How about the souls of non humans, do they go to heave or hell as there is no rebirth in islam, will the non human soul (for example animal souls) go to heaven? since they dont do any harm in their life.


    Kindly clarify

    Thanks :)
    Sarathy.s
     
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    It is the inner part of you separate from your physical body which will be transferred to the other world once you die.

    No, it says in the Quran that Allah has made man and woman equal with equal rights. It also holds Adam and Eve equally responsible for the Original Sin.

    Yes. They'll get virgins if they will be pious in this world. I'm not sure how many though.
    Absolutely. And the daughter of the Prophet Muhammad pbuh, Fatima and Mary Magdalene (Mother of Jesus pbuh) will be the leaders of women into Heaven.

    I'm not sure about this. But God created animals for our benefit.
     
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    What do the females get?
     
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    Ahmad,
    Thanks a lot for the clarifications :), i dont want to debate,

    only one more doubt
    I see both of your replies contradictory,
    If there are no male and female souls, how will a male (non existent) soul get virigins, Also its the body that gets the pleasure through brain, which means, will the souls get bodies to get pleasure in heaven?
     
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    Just a correction, Ahmed. You have confused Mary with Mary Magdalene, who is a repentant sinner.
     
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    1) What is a soul as per islam
    - The soul is you - your body is only the package :)
    2) Does god produce male soul, female soul and different souls for different species on earth?
    - God created humans , every soul is unique.
    3)Does a male soul that goes to heaven gets some virgins? i read it somewhere
    - promotion and advertisement for ordinary people :D , I have a feeling that god will forgive everybody.
    4) does female souls go to heaven?
    - Sure why not ? Who can accept this we have mothers,daugters,sisters,wifes there is no difference.
    5) How about the souls of non humans, do they go to heave or hell as there is no rebirth in islam, will the non human soul (for example animal souls) go to heaven? since they dont do any harm in their life.
    - Children died before adolesence goes directly to heaven and will be children there (this gives consolation to their parents) , animals are innocent and will go to heaven , people that has no control on their moves will go to heaven too.
     
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    Thanks zangief , I again dont want to argue with all your 1 to 4 explanations,
    But cant resist your 5th explanation, where animals goes to heaven which means, animals are greater than humans who have the 6th sense
     
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    I have some questions!!

    Point: Animals are innocent and they also have souls thus they go to heaven.

    Q1. Does Koran consider all souls equal?
    Q2. Are some souls inferior than others, Like Animal souls are inferior to human souls?
    Q3. Does Koran permit the killing of innocent?
    Q4. If no, What is the punishment for killing an innocent?
    Q5 If there is any punishment for killing innocents, Do people who kills animal get that punishment since animals are innocent souls?

    Thank you for your time.
     
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    In our religion humans have the capability to do the most evil and the most good.This is the point "capability" , and from our religions view this world is an exam (could not find the appropriate word) this puts humans over angels cause they are made to be only good.But humans have choice and they choose their way good or bad.
    Animals are different they are a part of the game :).Imo none of them has the need to be greater than humans , they don't care.

     
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    Wow I don't like this , I am just a man still is learning how to fall (Blonde redhead - Falling Man).
    When I was in university we have a group of friends that has different political views , one they we started to argue one of us said stop " we are at the age of 19 , all of us has our intellegence and reasons we can not change each other - lets be only friend not teachers)
    I think this about religions too , I am not an authority :D


    thanks
     
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    Umm thanks for the answers but still not making sense to me..
    I'll go again with some questions, not really targeted to you but in general.

    Q. If human are over any creatures, why some human are less over than all(Mentally retard, Born with physical disability etc)

    If animals are animals and they dont care about this then -
    1) Why do they feel pain and all?
    2) Why do they try to save their lives in a life threatening situation?
    3) Why do they retaliate some times and harm human.
    4) Why do they have intelligence?
    5) Why do they have everything just like a human except for less intelligenceand ability to communicate clearly (keeping in mind there was a time when human was no better than animals)
    6) While all of the above are true, how can we say they dont care about it, It would be better to say that Koran doesn't care about them, right?
     
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    No problem we are having fun

     
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    Although these answers do not satisfy me as I am a agnostic.
    I have asked questions like this to many religious people, including Christians, Hindus, Muslims etc. but they always give answer that doesn't make a perfect sense.

    The only people made sense were Buddhists and Jain, as they said humans and animals are all equal so we should not harm them.

    Thanks for your time :)
     
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    I am still wondering, if the guys get all of those virgins, what do the females get?
     
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    1. the soul (ruh) existed before birth. the 1st human soul was Adam and then a female soul Eve was created. then god extracted from Adam all the souls that will live on earth. then god gathered them and asked "am i not your lord?" we all replied "indeed you are"
    each soul comes down to earth at its appointed time and is taken away at its appointed time (death of body).

    2. yes each animal has a separate soul.

    3. the male is promised things in the quran things he can refer to. the virgins in paradise are nothing like earth. the enjoyment is nothing like earth enjoyment. whatever one thinks paradise is, it's not that. the virgins in paradise is described in human language so it is understood to be a place of pleasure and endless bliss.

    4. women are also promised bliss. women are addressed directly in the quran.

    5. animals generally turn to dust. they basically cease to exist. and when the wicked who are destined for the fire see that, they will wish for the same fate, but it will not be granted.
     
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    1. yes , before god they are equal.
    2. animal souls will cease to exist. human souls had a beginning but will not have an end.
    3. no
    4. death
    5. no, god has permitted killing of some animals for human consumption. animals were created to serve mankind.
    killing an animal for consumption has strict conditions and the welfare of animals is protected in islam
     
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    women who died in faith will be with their husbands. they will have 1 husband but their wishes will be fulfilled.

    guys are promised those things, because those things are what guys like and so the quran gives in human language a picture of paradise is.

    i guess women are more impressed with the other descriptions like wearing the finest garments / jewellery / living in the finest palaces and so on.
     
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    Will their husband have that wife and virgins as well according to the religion?
     
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    Thanks for the clear explanation booadam,
    if animal souls cease to exist, are new souls created all the time? and they enter all the creatures, animals and humans? ,
    From your answer, god initially extracted all the souls from adam, which mean, eve had only one soul and all the souls that extracted from adam entered animals, and all living beings.,
    If souls of various creatures except humans cease to exist after their death, they why is still production happening in this earth?
    Even humans should not be born, because all souls were extracted from adam and they entered various bodies and souls in the bodies of creatures cease to exist after they die?

    Thanks :)
     
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    What about those women who were killed by their husbands, but died in the faith, will they still get their husbands?

    What if husband of dead woman is still alive? would she need to wait till he dies?

    What if the woman is died in faith but her husband was ultimate sinner and cant be allowed to go to the heaven, will he be sent to heaven to accompany his wife? or the woman will be sent to hell to accompany her husband?

    What if the husband of the woman is enjoying his 72 virgin and does not want his wife anymore. What compensation the women will be provided?

    What if after the death of the woman, her husband marries to another woman, will both of his wife will share him? (Polygamy is allowed in heaven?)

    What if a woman doesnt want to be with her husband/husband is still alive nor she wants jewelery or anything, but 72 virgin males, will be she provided by them?
     
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