Farenheit 9/11 now free... What do you peps think?

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  1. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #181
    ...yet he has no trial. And he's not even a terrorist. I'll give you the props though, for condemning it. I just wanted to see if you held the same standard for people in your country as you often seek for terrorists.
     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #182
    Uh. Gworld. I actually replied to that point looking for examples of how "actions by state of Israel compare with the actions of the Nazi government" Did you happen to come up with any for me? Yes, I know you typed some words (which was mighty nice of ya!) but I'm looking for examples.
     
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  3. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #183
    LOL. :D:D

    After all we all know that CIA agents answer every question honestly and they are in a habit of announcing the identity of the under cover agents who get paid in different operation to anyone who asks. :rolleyes::D
     
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    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    #184
    Fox and cnn are brainwashed main stream media Gtech, I'll provide from a Pro-OBL source that covers his entire life span

    How was he a Friend/ Employee of CIA is beyond my thinking..
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #185
    Don't worry about it, most things are. :D
     
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  6. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #186
    That wasn't an answer though. You just repeated your opinion.

    Oddly enough, you simply used that as your shield from commenting on the real subject...that palestinians are using cartoons to teach hatred and encourage killing of Jews.

    Bad word for Israel (for not laying down to die like good Jews) - check!
    Bad word for Germany? - Check!

    Bad word for muslims using cartoons to teach hatred and killing of Jews? - Negatory!
     
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  7. chant

    chant Well-Known Member

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    #187
    Well GTech, if you're going to quote sources that accept claims by bin Laden why not just take that small step further and accept bin Laden on his word that he had nothing to do with 9/11?

    BTW, that's called cherry-picking.

    However the CIA did fund the mujahideen in Afganistan, just like bin Laden did.

    And bringing up the subject that bin Laden was funded by the Saudis and that he may be hiding in Pakistan also raise unsettling questions. If the Pakistanis are our allies how come we can't go in there and assist in flushing bin Laden out? If bin Laden was funded by Saudi nationals how come the House of Saud isn't doing all that it can to end the monetary support of terrorism against the United States?

    You don't have to be a rocket scientist to smell when something stinks and there's a lot of odor with bin Laden, the US, the Saudis, the Bush family and Pakistan.
     
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  8. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #188
    LMAO! That was very thoughtful of you to fill in for AGS! He's probably off to prison planet's super secret paid access site looking for something to counter reality!

    Here are some more of his choice "everyone but me and alex jones are brainwashed" quotes!
     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #189
    We have an agreement with pakistan not to send troops into their borders. The region OBL is supposedly hiding in has a great amount of support for him. Pakistan thinks that going in there with troops will create a civil war inside their borders. Given their nuclear situation; it's wise to tread lightly, don't tyou think?

    Musharraf has been terrible at the appeasement bit lately, but it seems like he may be waking up.

    I don't think anyone claims SA is innocent here. And this government has a strange fascination with playing nice with SA. They have their own AQ problem as well; they get attacks there all the time.

    Pakistan and SA have to be considered allies of convenience. You aren't going to get perfect allies. You take what you can get.
     
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    #190
    Here's a bit of an OBL conundrum and is for any member of the crazy gang >>>>

    Considering OBL was responsible for 9/11 as confirmed by Bush and FOX News (so it must be true :eek:) and it was all we heard for months after 9/11, answer this one question (providing that any of you can tear yourself away from the copy and pasting for a few minutes :p)

    Why was OBL not listed on the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorist Web Page for 9/11?
     
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  11. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #191
    You are welcome to counter them with your own sources.

    I can't seem to find your countering sources?

    These are covered in the sources I provided. I was looking for your own sources, but all I came up with was opinion.

    This was also covered in the sources I provided. Perhaps you didn't really take time to read them before coming to a rash conclusion?

    Some people just make up their on facts as they go along. Obviously it's a "conspiracy."
     
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    #192
    The grand conspiracy thwarted by the FBI most wanted list. ARGH!

    Are you serious AGS?
     
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    chant Well-Known Member

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    #193
    Huh. I heard it was called the Bush Administration.
     
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  14. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #194
    Are you able to provide proof from a credible site that doesn't have "prison" or "info" in the url, that can show that he wasn't?

    That would go a long way to establishing the truthfulness and validity of the pre-determined question.

    I take it you no longer contest that bin laden was funded by the CIA? Or did you want to present the same types of facts that chant produced? [opinion]
     
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  15. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #195
    So you are not willing to back up your opinions? You've taken issue with the facts I've presented, but are not willing to do your own work to counter them with anything more than opinion?

    I accept your concession gracefully, thank you.
     
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    #196
    Thank you for your concern about my thinking ability. And since you do not avoid questions I am going to put few for you. (And dont give me "I have already answered them" Bullshit)

    1. What is the base of your claiming that OBL was employed by America/CIA/Bush

    2. His Father was a humble and good man and had a good relation with almost every one, including Royal Family of Saudi, America and even the workers of his own construction company. He Died when OBL was 13. How his connections with US/Saudi apply to OBL? Or are you suggesting that Awad bin Laden was also a terrorist?

    3. OBL pretty much started on his own in Afghanistan during Soviet invasion. He wasnt even actively participating in the war, his contribution was limited to providing shelter, called Al-Qa'edah (The Base), to the mujahedeens, He never was fascinated about America. How and When CIA employed him?

    PS: And no my source of information is not FOX/CNN/CIA/FBI/AMERICA/BUSH/ or any of those types. Its a very Pro-OBL and PRO-ISLAM source.
     
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  17. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #197
    I'm starting to wonder if any of the "blame America first" crowd can produce anything about the myth of the CIA funding bin laden. Surely, someone must have countered this somewhere? Or is it truly just a myth espoused by the angry left to soothe their hatred for Bush and America?
     
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    #198
    Well the simple fact was that he wasn't GTech.

    That is actual fact GTech and quite fucking remarkable considering what your lover Bush said about him in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, until he admitted that he didn't think that much about him in March 2002. :rolleyes:

    You peeps sometimes hit the wall when AGS asks questions sometimes. ;)

    Still waiting for an answer. I have the answer straight from the mouth of the FBI but I'll let you fools squirm around it a bit, unless you can post the reason why yourselves. :D
     
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    chant Well-Known Member

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    #199
    I did not present any sources to back up any of my claims as I wasn't presenting that side of my arguement at the time. You could have asked for links in a civil manner, but since you chose to populate your response to me with repeated passive non-aggressive snips at me I really could care less at this point in researching it any further and playing the part of your librarian.

    I think that you and Lorien enjoy taunting people in these discussions and dismissing, downplaying and discarding critical evidence offered against your presumptions. It goes beyond supporting your side of an arguement and borders on childish personal attacks. For example, in your last response to a post of mine at every point where you chose to reply you repeatedly mention words to the effect of "I can't find your sources". Asking for your opponent to present evidence is fine (as you did with "You are welcome to counter them with your own sources,") but to repeatedly bully someone that hasn't had the time to reply to you request (as you did in the next few replies) shows me that you aren't interested in learning anything from this debate but merely want to hold superiority over the other person.

    I've seen it before with people that can't use a structured debate to balance their case. Sometimes it goes into ad hominem attacks and sometimes it goes into passive/aggressive swiping (which is what I charge you with doing.) In any case I'm not interested in debating with someone who wants to take mean spirited swipes at me, I simply have better things to do with my time and I've stated my side of the case.
     
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  20. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #200
    You were very much presenting your side of the argument. In fact, you followed up with a BDS comment. I did ask in a civil manner. Playing the victim card during civil discourse is a sign of weakness.

    Seeing that you sill have nothing to counter your "opinion" other than victim seeking and hatred, I once again accept your concession on the issue and thank you.

    As it stands, no one can seem to show any credible evidence (after well over a dozen posts now) to blame America first with a cia/bin laden connection.
     
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