Vegetarianism and religion are they compatible?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by kafer, Jul 14, 2007.

  1. #1
    Well, I mean the Judo-Christian and Islamic religions since other belief systems such as Hinduism and Buddhism were far ahead of their time in valuing life be it human or animal.

    The Abrahamic religion is no short of God’s references to animal sacrifices, slaughter methods or eating meat.

    I know there are some occurrences among some old Christians abstaining from eating meat. However that was done for the wrong reasons(abstaining from the pleasures of life) and not for the sake of the animals.

    Vegetarianism and religion are they compatible?

    Will humans ever evolve one day to look back at the suffering we are inflicting on animals as shameful and regrettable things of the past?
     
    kafer, Jul 14, 2007 IP
  2. yogesh sarkar

    yogesh sarkar Well-Known Member

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    I seriously doubt it.
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    Christian and Islamic religions believed in the garden of eden/paradise. They were all vegetarians in this "perfect" world by gods design. Even the animals were all vegetarian.
     
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    zangief Well-Known Member

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    You decide what to eat in every religion , but you can also eat meat according to religions it is not banned.It is your decision.
     
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    Kerosene Alpha & Omega™ Staff

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    Some of us have already evolved.
     
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    But plants are living things too, aren't they? ;)
    We grow them in fields just to kill them and eat them. :p
     
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    Yes, plants are living as well. But I guess I just don't look at killing plants as the same as killing animals. When I was a little girl, I saw a lamb being slaughtered on a farm and the experience pretty much traumatized me for life. I was crying and begging them not to do it, the lamb was crying and scared, then they slit his throat and killed him.:(
    I am a vegetarian because I don't want any animals killed for me.
     
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    zangief Well-Known Member

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    The world has to much pain people killing people etc , although I don't want to be a vegetarian and don't need it , I think vegetarians are very good hearted people.It is bad for them they will be sad too much.
     
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    do you no longer have canine teeth or something? :confused:
     
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    How did you know that?:confused:
     
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    That's in the Bible. The eating of animals was first allowed to Noah, according to Genesis. If you consider that to be authoritative. I assume that this particular myth refers to a long evolution as vegetarian, then reverting to hunting during an ice age.
    Although we have adapted to be able to eat some meat, it is obvious from our teeth and digestive system that our species was never primarily an eater of raw, fresh kills. Rather, we require fire to prepare most meat-which is why the Bible myth refers to an angel with a flaming sword barring the way back to Eden. The Garden is a metaphorical reference to our ancestral vegetable diet.
    Our descendants will shake their heads in disbelief when they learn of our eating habits.
     
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    kafer Peon

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    Noah “existed” no more than 4000 years ago according to the scriptures. Scientists say that Carnivorous humans go back to 2.5 million years.


    nationalgeographic
     
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    Well, you're mixing issues. The first question was whether vegetarianism is supported by Judeo-Christian mythology. It is. I never said that I thought this reflected historical events...although there seems to be a memory of these things happening.
    2.5 million years is considered to be hardly anything in the evolution of species. If the eating of meat indeed began at that time, it still represents a major shift from the vegetarian primates we evolved from.
    In that time we still have not evolved to be able to eat meat without tools or fire.
     
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    Fair enough. I think I was missing your point.
     
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    God gave us canines so that we eat meat too. :)
    We're the best of His creations and all others are for our benefit.
     
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    Ahmad, I respect what your saying and from what I have seen most people agree with you. But I think if we are really the best of creation we should try to look out for all the others that are weaker and try to prevent harm from coming to them. It is easy for me though because I don't look at animals as being food, so I am not even tempted. My canines are really tiny, only good for ripping broccoli to pieces.:)
     
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    Correct, permission was granted to Noah and his family to eat meat to supplement their diet after the flood and this was extended to all mankind.
    However it is noteworthy that it was never God's original purpose for mankind to be meat-eaters.
    Today it is a matter of free choice for a Christian to eat or not eat meat, however being a vegetarian calls for the need to ensure a well-balanced diet.
     
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    if they weren't created for our benefits they how are we going to get cures?
     
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    What do you mean? Do you mean cures for diseases, like animal research?
     
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    like the cures that were from animals and plants
     
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