why GOD created human?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by kawikaan, Jul 8, 2007.

  1. Ahmad_Malik

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    #101
    No. You have free will. That is why you are saying that Satan is responsible for your sins. Satan tries to make you go astray, but you can choose not to follow him if you realize.

    Satan is not an angel. He is from the Jinns. I don't exactly know who is Lucifer, perhaps another name for Satan.

    Excuse me, this is GOD we are talking about. Not a toy maker. He creates what He wills. And He created angels for different purposes which include our benefit. For example, angels help us to come to the right path and help us against evil.
     
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  2. simplyg123

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    #102
    first off ahmad you need to realize you and i have different beliefs, im taking in that you are muslim? Well i am christian. Some christians do believe in freewill some do not, i do not. Men who have not been saved by accepting jesus as their lord and savior. DO NOT HAVE FREE WILL, they do the devils work. However those who do accept the lord and are born again, recieve the ability to chose good or bad. Only God can grant free will, and Only God saves
     
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  3. DevilHellz

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    #103
    I am not 'saved' by accepting jesus as my lord and savior, and i HAVE free will to say whatever the hell i want, as well as believe in whatever i want.
    Or do you want to tell me that what i think and say are not derived from my free will ?
     
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  4. simplyg123

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    #104
    note the tone in your statement, is it good or evil, considering the language used i would say you just made my point. You just said what satan wanted you to say
     
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  5. DevilHellz

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    #105
    Sad thing is, you don't have a point [​IMG]
     
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    #106
    No such thing as god :eek: sorry to dissapoint you.
    God were created by humans for power - both militarily or politically..and to fool the masses in given someone that power to control the things you do and such

    but I believe in other advance beings somewhere in da universe who you might think as gods for da super tech gadgets they have. :p

    as soon as you stop believing in your god, the better the world would probably be - probably stop 90% of the wars right now.
     
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  7. simplyg123

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    #107
    No i do, my point is if you are not saved, your under satans control. And you cant chose to do good. You only do what satan allows you to do
     
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  8. simplyg123

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    #108
    Ok, look at it this way then, if im wrong, So what? I lived a good honest life and i did my best to be a great person.

    However

    If your wrong...you burn in hell for eternity

    you do the math
     
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    #109
    This just shows how much religion brainwashes people. By choosing not to believe in God/Jesus, one does not have free will anymore and cannot do good.

    Do you realize what you're saying? So, since I'm not Christian, I can't do good? An atheist helping an old lady cross the street is the mark of Satan? Picking up litter on the park is also an evil, too, I guess.

    /thread
     
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    #110
    its far more complicated then that
     
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    #111
    another thing the bibles say is the unbeliever dont want to hear the truth, nor can they understand it
     
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    #112
    The same can be said for believers. ;)
     
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    #113
    A shame that you are so brainwashed.
    I can do my best to be a great person as well, and it does NOT mean i have to believe in god to be a better person. Shame.
     
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    #114

    Just remember this^^^
     
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  15. Ahmad_Malik

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    #115
    Oh kay.
    You'll know soon who is responsible for whose sins. :)
     
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    #116
    Can god answer why theres hundred thousands killed by killer tsunami last 2005?
    Whats the explanation there? God created water element that kill people also? And also so many cases that that nature involves.. Like earthquake, Volcano erruption and more that can kill lives. Just so many questions in my mind why its happening and almost everyday.
     
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    #117
    Of course he could answer it, but i couldnt.
     
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    #118
    then where is he/she to answer those question? A lot of people suffering for the death of their loveones. Then the bible keep saying god is the savior?
     
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    #119

    God does what he wants, if he thought thousand should die, i have faith there was a reason, sad as it may be
     
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  20. kawikaan

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    #120
    Rom 9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
    Rom 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?


    do God don't have the power to do what he want to do to his creation... yes he has the power to do what he want. he is the powerful God in heaven. And do you mean if theres a people died in many diff tragedy its all God fault? No he may do that but he has his righteous reason. for example you are 100 years old and you are very very ill and there is no cure, if God want you to suffer he will give you more hundred life to live with your ill. but because he love you he will kill you, so you will have a rest but God said at John 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
    God will give us another life in heaven and that is everlasting life, like the spirits.

    read this verse:

    Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
     
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