Jesus praying for Muslims in the Bible!

It could be a reflection coming from a light source in the room as well...I still want to know why he would take a pic in a mirror in the first place...pretty useless if you ask me...unless you are trying to make a "coincidence".

 

I tool the photo off the ORIGINAL PHOTOGRAPH people took that night.
I took it without a flash.

As for the marriage with Aisha, why do you always fail to answer that if Prophet Muhammad pbuh Godforbid molested Aisha, why did she relate the greatest number of beautiful Ahadith of the Prophet? WHY?
All the Ahadith she related are extremely beautiful. And she continuously praises her. WHY?

 

you tool the photo? Is that the same as saying you used some kind of tool on it, which means you altered it? Ahmad, your photo has no meaning, because your "proof" has no more weight than any of our "proof" that it is not a real photo...you can keep believing what you want, we will still keep thinking that you are wrong.

I know lots of 9 yr old's (boys and girls) who do what their parents or grandparents or other adults say. Mo could have easily molested her and she didn't tell anyone....that happens everyday all around the world, and it is sad. Why did she relate the ahadith as you say? How do you know it was her? what "proof" do you have?

 

I told you. You are bound not to believe me. If you really want to know some miracles, come to house in Pakistan and I'll show you the original photo along with many other miracles which might just make you cry if you actually believe in God.

The "proof" that you have about his marriage with Aisha is a Hadith related by Aisha herself that they got married when she was 9. So if you say the Ahadith are not authentic, then this information isn't authentic either. In the same Ahadith, she explains his beautiful charachter.

Do you want me to tell you the reason for her marriage at this early age?

 

so now you have resorted to questioning my belief in God? how sad of you...I never said the ahadith wasn't authentic, it does exist....I just question the authorship, thats all...do you think it is right for a 51 yr old man to start dating a girl when she is 6 and to marry her when she is 9?

 

I'm glad somebody did something in Pakistan but you have not answered these questions:-

If this happened in my religion such people would not be permitted to remain as religious teachers.

 

I'm glad that you are glad. Lol!

Anyway, it is not possible to remove them universally. We have to educate them. I condemn them and I'm responsible for what I do.

 

Surely if they are appointed as religious leaders they should already be educated in the law of the Quran shouldn't they?

So I can call myself a Muslim and I can incite others to maim, torture, kill, commit rape or do any other bad thing and not be removed as a Muslim as long as I call myself a Mullah?

If a woman can be stoned to death for adultery why cannot a Mullah be stoned to death for inciting the deaths of others?

 

The problem is that every now and then you'll find people like that who will fight for any purpose undern the banner of Jihad. So they brainwash others to join them. Such people can be and are executed if found guilty.
But that's not the solution. We should actually teach people about the true teachings of Quran so that no one follows them in the first place.

 

Sorry if it hurt you, but I said that because in one of your posts you said that we all are wrong. That showed some weakness in faith.

If he would have dated her, then definitely, that would be pathetic.
But that's not the case. The marriage was ordered by God and that means there's something above the normal thinking of man.
Aisha was a very very intelligent girl. God decreed her marriage with Muhammad pbuh so that Aisha noticed his lifestyle and character and later told the world about his beautiful character for years to come. And that's exactly what happened. Many great Imams formed under her teachings and today we know her as the greatest source of knowledge about the pophet pbuh. She has given little details about the prophet's character and their own relation. But she never mentioned that they ever entered a physical relationship, let alone at the time they married! Nor did they have any child.
I've told you the reason but then again, I know you wouldn't actually care knowing the truth.

 

Of course some people will call themselves, Muslim, Christian, or whatever when they are clearly not ... but when this happpens why are they allowed to continue, especially as a leader in that religion - surely the means exists to remove a bad person as a representative of Muhammed and the Quran?

This man has been inciting violence not only toward non-Muslims but between Muslims for years!

If a leader in my religion advocated killing anyone, let alone fellow worshippers, he would be removed from his position without delay. How long does it take before Muslim Leaders realise that 'educating' this man, (if that is really being done - very questionable IMO), isn't working?

Another point Ahmed - if he can be given 'education', (which clearly isn't working!), then why not the woman stoned for adultery - is the Quran biased against women?

If the Quran and Islam was as 'perfect' as you say, I do not believe we would see these things happening and little or no action being taken by whatever Muslim Governing Councils that exist - for example in the UK the British Muslim Concil, (to their credit they have condemned the recent UK suicide bombers as being 'terrorists' and not acting according to the Quran - but even here it does not seem that they will be 'excommunicated' or whatever the Muslim term is for removal from the faith, despite their wicked actions).

 

Nobody allows them to remain leaders once they are identified. They are simply brought to justice.

I was talking about the citizens whom they brainwash. That we should teach everyone the true teachings of Islam so that such Mullahs have no ground.

And the Quran is not biased. Muslims are often biased. Islam gives equal rights to both men and women.

 

This man has not been brought to justice and he has been doing these things at least since 2002 - that is 5 years?

As long as these Mullahs that preach hate and vilence are allowed to continue as Mullahs preaching hate and violence their followers will not change!

So Muslims find it easier to stone adulterous women than to kerb their preachers of hate and vilence.

 

If I were the one in charge, I would ensure that nothing un-Islamic happens.

 

Okay, so I think that we've proved that Islam is not the perfection that you first thought - indeed it is subject to corruption by the evils of some of its religious leaders who are allowed to remain in office and teach hatred and violence.

 

No.
We've proved that Muslims are not perfect.

 

Have to take issue there Ahmad, everyone is imperfect so that's not in question. We are talking here about the organized face of the religion, that organized face is its religious leaders.
Whilst every individual worshipper represents his own faith, the religious leader represent the faith and that is quite a different thing!
If its religious leaders are allowed to promote hate and violence from the 'pulpit' of the Mosque that brings into question the whole religion of Islam, because by its inaction in removing the preachers of hate and violence it condones what they preach.

 

Look, I have studied Islam. And it's teachings ensure a perfect system IF followed perfectly. But the sad thing is that no one does. That is a flaw on behalf of the followers, NOT Islam!
Every Muslim will be accountable for his own actions to God. And so I'm responsible for what I do.

 

So you don't believe that a Mullah as a religious leader and teacher has any more accountability than any other Muslim?

 

Everyone is equally accountable.
For me, the source of knowledge about Islam is the Quran and the Prophet's sayings. Nobody else has Divine knowledge.
I'm supposed to follow those teachings. Not of some Mullah.