Jesus praying for Muslims in the Bible!

God has given man the faculty of a conscience - an inner guide to right and wrong - but the quality of that conscience depends on what you feed it on! Hence I do not beleive it is 1st man's inner knowledge/reason/morality and 2nd God's Law.
I believe that it should be the reverse, 1st God's Law and then inner reason/morality based on that law.
The problem with the former is that it leaves everyone to do what they think to be right and clearly mankind does not all agree on that, hence the fighting and division that the history of mankind records.
If on the other hand mankind would live by God's Law then the record would be different - just look at the Ten Commandments, for example, imagine everyone in the world living by them!

I agree that the misrepresentation of scripture is a source of much trouble but I don't think putting scripture aside will change that, what is needed is to live by the scriptures as I said above.

I understand what you are saying but I refer to what I have already said above. It is not (for example) the fault of the bible that the Crusaders invaded another country and killed its people, or that Protestants killed Catholics and vice versa in Northern Ireland ... had these people observed what the bible says these things would never have happened, as it was they listened to their inner reason/morality and so they did happen.

 

Search his book and you'll find it exactly so.

This is what Psalms 91 says.
8 You will only observe with your eyes
and see the punishment of the wicked.
The man who conspired against Jesus pbuh and helped the Jews find him was crucified.

And God did not protect Bible or all other scriptures because in that case, it would have been possible that every book formed a separate religion. And people would say, "My book is preserved and yours is not".
So to prevent this discrepancy, He protected His last scripture only.

This is why the last revelation upon the Prophet pbuh was:

"This day have I perfected for you your religion and completed My favor on you and chosen for you Islam as a religion." -- Quran 5:3

Just imagine, according to your belief, God asks an atheist, "Why didn't you believe my word, the Bible". And he says, "Was that your word? Full of contradictions and things defying the laws of nature." What will God reply?

According to my belief, God will ask you, "Why did you hold on the book your people had written and corrupted? And why didn't you read that word of mine which in which I sent signs and wonders and miracles?" What will you reply?

 

I answered to what I understood from your question.
If you ask my agenda, I say that the contradictions are proof of its corruption. And He did not protect any other scripture than the Quran to make sure that those who don't accept it, God has the reason to punish them for clinging on to the corrupted scriptures.

 

"and see the punishment of the wicked."

Again, he could very well be refering to Muslims. God frowns on those who twist his words.

And I thought "their" was rediculous.

I can see the benefits of frowning on an education in Islamic countries.

I never realized that everytime the Bible uses a pronoun that its refering to Muslims/Muhammad. And I certainly never realized that whenever the Bible talks about wicked people and punishing them its really refering to one single wicked person who would die for Jesus. Because Jesus needed a wicked person to die for him. Its so obvious that wicked "people" didn't need Jesus to die for them because there are no wicked "people" there is only a wicked "person" and he's dead now so we're good.

Stupid education. Making me stupid and not see such obvious things.

Thank you Allahbus, you make me smartest!

 

This is very interesting, is/was there another after Muhammad and/or 1 before Jesus

 

my mamma always said: "evil is what evil does..."

 

I know you were not talking to me personally but I would reply to your god in this situation "you could have just came and told me in person, would have saved a lot of trouble, by the way why don't you just make your book really huge and indestructable so people couldn't keep changing it, maybe put a nice pretty signature at the bottom."

 

Who twisted God's word into different versions?

As for pronouns, refer to the Gospel of Barnabos on Wikipedia to find out why you only find pronouns in the Bible today.

And read the complete Psalms 91 and you'll know who is God referring to.

 

This question is answered in the Quran right now. This world and your life of some years is a test of your abilities. How well you can adhere to piety and abstain from evil. This is the purpose of your creation.
His book is indestructible. There are examples I can quote if you want me to.

You have to FIND God and obey Him. He has given you SINGS and miracles. Find them.

 

No. There was only one.
As foretold by Jesus pbuh in the Gospel of Barnabos, which unfortunately, was declared not the "inspired word of God" by the Christians due to that fact.

 

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I am a muslim and my view is let everybody with their religion , If someone needs to search there are a lot of sources.And it is easy to reach them nowadays.
I show respect to every religion and expect the same from everyone why would some one be angry for someones belief ?
If he/she is a believer he/she can only be sad for them.

 

Well. I feel VERY comfortable with the scriptures in the NWT and I also feel God will not punish me for clinging on to the truth.

To be honest (and I have said this before), anyone can look hard enough and find a contradiction in any document if they are paranoid enough. That is why "reasoning" on the scriptures is necessary. In other words, to understand the scriptures to find out the true meaning for what is written and why it written in such a way.

In the organization I belong to, you can look as hard and deep as you like, you will find no corruption. There have been some (unfortunately for them) who have tried to corrupt others in the organization. But, as usual, they seem to forget that God knows what they are up to and they are always found out and are weeded out of the organization. Of course, God being merciful and kind, there is always opportunities for those ones to repent their ways and make their way back in to the organization (if their heart is in the right place).

Col

 

I really respect you.
But I beg to differ. I've been through the thought process of every major religion. I found absolutely no confusion in Islam and the Quran.

 

Keep looking.

http://bibleprobe.com/muhammed.htm

 

Lol! I have never read such an idiotic and hypocritic criticism of Islam. Contradicting ones ownself at several places.
I don't have time to answer such kind of stupidity.

 

You're still a mamma's boy and post 999999% irrelevant.
If you want to increase your posts then try the "Introductions" Section

 

The funny thing is that there were no Muslims nor Islam during Jesus times. The Islam and Muslims appeared several centuries later. So, how is it possible for Jesus to pray about a religious movement when it did not exist?!

 

These threads make it pretty clear how desperate Islam is for validation.

What other religious texts do Christians look to in attempts to validate their religion? Do they need to find Jesus in the Koran or Book of Mormon to feel good about their religion?

Islam is just another sad little farce of a religion that needs the Bible with one face but strongly denounces it with the other.

 

This is from the forgotten Gospel of Barnabos.

Jesus pbuh prophecised him. For Muhammad pbuh in other religions, read this as in Hinduism and you can surf about the rest on the same site.