Iam a Christian, just want to know, how many are for christianity

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by webgracesam, Jul 2, 2007.

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    just curious to know..if there any athiests in this forum..or guys who has questions unanswered in the bible?

    Iam myself a christian, trust and believing in Lord Jesus
     
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  2. KeithCash

    KeithCash Well-Known Member

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    I have a question, Who wrote the first 4 books of the new testament???
     
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  3. KalvinB

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    I don't believe in atheists.
     
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    Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.
     
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    Debatable and historically debated.
     
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  6. sarathy

    sarathy Peon

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    How can god have only one son, if he is the creator of the whole universe >> The father of all
     
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    anions Notable Member

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    #7
    I was born a Hindu. A few years ago, I saw Hindus and Muslims kill each other in mass-rioting fueled by religious sentiments. Then I got broadband Internet and started reading Richard Dawkins.

    End result - I'm pretty much an atheist now, but I dont see why that should stop someone from committing good Karma.

    Btw, (the christian) God said, that those who don't belive in him will end up in hell. Unfortunately for you Christians, thats exactly what Allah and 330 million(yes thats correct - consult the Gita) said.

    So whichever religion you follow, you're gonna end up in hell anyways - I thought that I might as well save myself the time, and end up in hell with you guys anyways :p

    Obviously it's not a coincidence that Newton, Einstein, Kelvin, Cavendish, Bohr, Planck, etc did not believe in religion either...

    Just be good and it'll come around. :)

    Best wishes to all,

    AnIons
     
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  8. sarathy

    sarathy Peon

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    no hindu god said, only god believers will reach heaven,

    There are 3 types of final destination for a soul, One is merging with the paramatma, the other is reaching the heaven and hell, Heaven or hell is not permenant, but attaining nirvana (Merging of soul with god is permenant

    There are several gods in hinduism because, god(The One) bless one in the form he prays - Lord Rama
     
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  9. tau

    tau Peon

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    Why is Jesus suddenly become the Lord? I thought he was the god's son... All Christians believe that Jesus is God, thus creating two real gods and falling back into pagan religion... :cool:

    If somebody did not see it yet, I recommend to see "Jesus Camp" movie.
    Links:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Camp
    http://www.jesuscampthemovie.com/

    You can find that movie on youtube as well. I'm not against Christianity - every opinion should have the place under the sun, but it's just the way the roots of the religion were twisted...
     
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    Religion appears to me to be just another thing to divide us... Surely God in whatever form should be something to unite us... For most of us Religion is something we are born into... Many people are taught from childhood that their religion is the one true religion.. So in my eyes it must be a waste of time the rest of us being here if all we have to look forward to damnation (My parents obviously led me up the wrong path and for that i'm detained to burn in hell or somewhere). Sucks doesn't it... I love everyone christian, hindu, muslim sure we are all people and any god that divides us Sucks..

    That of course is only my humble view, everyone should be aloud to follow their own beliefs as long as it doesn't F*** with anyone else.. "SEEN"
     
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  11. webgracesam

    webgracesam Peon

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    #11
    how did the universe form?

    u all seem to be so smart speaking abt god..

    is it possible for u guys to explain the source of heavens, skies,water..or anything on earth?

    is it possible to atleast apprehend the point?

    its true we people always bring pain to god...

    I do believe, there is a power, a manifestation of GOD on earth and on all of us..Can something be formed without nothing?

    There is something that you should never go against...thats using your brains to analyze and doubt god..its like going against god..

    Understanding GOD comes by humility, and obedience to the scriptures..

    open ur eyes..
     
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  12. Radamanto

    Radamanto Well-Known Member

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    The fact that something does not yet have precise scientific answers should in fact encourage us to look for better answers. Dont you find it terribly simplistic and primitive to automatically assign an answer to these questions? The same has been done through the ages, ancient greece for instance. Many things were then not discovered by science, they were therefore aluded to higher powers. Fire, lightning, the sun, etc. 350 years ago thinkers and scientists were being burned alive for implying that the earth was round and that it was not the center of the universe.

    At this moment, the same occurs in the minds of some people whom perhaps recoil at the findings of science and philosophy. They tend to assign snappy answers to very interesting questions. What is the source of water? Snappy answer: GOD of course!
    An interesting answer: I am not a scientist but would like to believe there are a number of explanations deriving from biology, chemistry and physics, which would give anyone enough reason to appretiate things in profound ways.
     
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    I just re-read my post and wanted to say that I really do not wish to offend any one with my commentaries. There really is no reason for anyone to fight around this subject. I mentioned that I found christian ansers quite simplistic and primitive. I really apologize for saying that, its not my place to say it. I respect all views, just as long as they dont impose themselves on others. In my opinion Chrisitanity has commited various mistakes through the years, and I therefore sometimes feel a little bit against it, but I doubt that the forum posters that presently defend christianity have anything to do with those mistakes. My apologies.
     
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  14. tau

    tau Peon

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    Religion was created to control masses... There are some secret letters were published by Vatican, they were written hundreds of years before, I dont have the link, but the idea is that they wanted to unite and control Europe by creating centralized religion, which become Roman church, and then was split in christianity, islam, etc
     
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    The Earth was formed 4.6 billion years ago from the same nebula cloud of gas and dust that the Sun and the eight other planets were formed...

    life as we know it has only existed on the planet for the last 150 million to 200 million

    The intervening time god spent conducting research and development.. After a few quite a few failed attempts (ie Sludge, Amoebas, Dinosaurs and Neanderthals) he opted for current upright bipod.. blah blah

    Then he/she thought to himself/herself what next??. I know I'll let them believe there are many gods and they can spend the rest of eternity F***ing each other up trying to prove which one is the real me, on the promise of eternal life by my side....................

    The truth of the matter is we know f*** all.. Most of us are brought up in the religion of our parents, and the them their parents.. We are brainwashed basically.. Free will has nothing to do with anything...

    I have friends from most denominations most of them believe they follow the true god.. They cant all be right or can they?........ If so what are fighting over...
     
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  16. tau

    tau Peon

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    By splitting and re-uniting atoms of materia

    The science of god was create by religious philosophers, if you dont know.

    Heavens or Skies = Oxigen, other inert gases, gravitation; and the gas is another form of materia
    Water = two atoms of Hydrogen and one atom of Oxygen, united by an electric discharge

    Naturally

    Yes, by killing other people just because those believe in other incarnation of God

    There is a force, that's true. And something cannot be formed from nothing, the materia is just changing it's form

    There is nothing wrong to analyze and try to understand God. And it does not mean to go against God.

    Not really, unless you want to think that way

    They are wide open

    webgracesam, I'm not bashing your religious feelings, I'm bashing your ignorance (forgive me for being straight with you). Do not believe everything that your pastor says to you on a mess, he is not the brightest person on the block, and God does not speak through his mouth. Learn, read by yourself.

    There is nothing wrong in understanding God's doings, there is nothing wrong in the scientific research of a medical drug that can save thousands of lives, there is nothing wrong in a human progress, it's not against God.

    The domain of God is psychology and soul health, not material world. How can you destroy a material shell of a human just because he/she believes in God in a different way? Will it bring peace to your soul? That's what Church was doing in Middle Ages. They were killing people for the name of God...

    If you can understand the motives of God and bring peace, you are not going against God, that's total nonsense... But you can bring that knowledge to people and maybe save lives.

    Besides, there are some theological studies that give a theory that God is a entity which created this world as a trial to understand itself. Ask yourself, why human is so interested in the development? Maybe it's the God's will? May be we are doing a task for God, in search for the answer to questions like "What am I?", "Why me?".

    Think about how you can help people, and save lives, not how you can stop or restrict the human progress.
     
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    tau

    "Seen" ;)
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    TAU, really nice post. positive rep sent your way...:)
     
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    TAU said::Think about how you can help people, and save lives, not how you can stop or restrict the human progress.

    ans? tell me how to help and save people?

    giving money? or food? what do you say?

    There is no peace that comes without GOD in life..others are all temporary..

    Iam not a christian because my pastor said so, iam a christian cuz of personal faith and my understanding towards the scriptures..

    no wonder jesus said, " Those who have ears let them hear, those who have eyes, let them see.."

    Iam not here to spread religion..rather iam trying to reveal the beauty of Christianity and Jesus Christ, his words which i believe can be achieved only by faith and trust in GOD..

    you need to have faith that God exists.

    Its just like having faith that you breathe air...u just believe it cuz ur teacher or ur mom told u..not cuz u ever saw air :D
     
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  20. YoungSmeagol

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    The one thing I can't understand about atheists is why they are so sure there is no God. Some of them believe without a shadow of a doubt that there is no God and they think that you are stupid if you believe otherwise. Anything is possible. You can't prove that God doesn't exist. You just have faith that he doesn't exist just like Christians have faith that he does.

    There are infinite possibilities out there in the Universe. Anything you can imagine could come true somewhere. Maybe not here but somewhere. It's weird to me how some of them get worked up and angry over it. It's almost like atheism has become a new religion. A new faction in religious conflicts.

    I thought Atheism allowed people freedom to do what they wanted. Instead it seems like it just restricts people.
     
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