scammer on elance

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by Swerd, Jun 14, 2007.

  1. #1
    Hey.

    I paid some guy on elance.com $175 to have 3, 15 -20 page guides written for me.

    The business terms were 50% upfront ($175)
    and it will be completed in 1 month.

    It has now been 3 months.. i have asked him about 9 times for my guides and he keeps telling me he will send at the end of the week. He has said things like he has been overseas for business, and he wife was in a car crash and is in hospitle etc. etc.

    I have the whole conversation saved.

    What can I do here? I have asked for a refund but he is not replying to any PMs.
     
    Swerd, Jun 14, 2007 IP
  2. Gnet

    Gnet Peon

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    #2
    well for one thing post that convo here.
     
    Gnet, Jun 15, 2007 IP
  3. Swerd

    Swerd Active Member

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    well if i dont get anything from him by the end of this week i will post it up here.. and contact the people at elance..

    he said i will have the guides by the end of this week, so i guess i will give him this last chance..

    I will also post his username/profile info if i dont get anything...


    has anybody experienced anything like this before on elance? if so, what did you do?
     
    Swerd, Jun 15, 2007 IP
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    webnet.writer Banned

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    #4
    Dont post here. Send it in an email to elance and leave the rest on to them
     
    webnet.writer, Jun 16, 2007 IP
  5. emg35

    emg35 Well-Known Member

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    #5
    I've had this happen and elance is not that helpful. I would go cc (if you paid with a cc) and file a complaint before it's to late. Thats were I went wrong I waited to long and the cc company would not do a investigation.
     
    emg35, Jun 16, 2007 IP
  6. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    Simple. Notify him he has 24 hours to deliver what he has done and then the rest of the week to deliver the rest. If he doesn't meet these terms, stop buying his sob story and charge back.

    If he was reputable, he would have refunded your money for work he cannot complete due to other issues.

    I've been burned once by this, and I waited too long and couldn't get my money back. Don't make my mistake.
     
    guerilla, Jun 16, 2007 IP
  7. Swerd

    Swerd Active Member

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    well looks like i lost my deposit of $175

    the scammers details:

    elance username: AdvanceInfo
    Mohd Aali Iqbal
    C/O Mohd. Waali Iqbal, RocSearch India Pvt. Ltd. A-16, Sector 16
    Noida
    U.P.-201301
    India
     
    Swerd, Jun 29, 2007 IP
  8. Swerd

    Swerd Active Member

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    Swerd, Jun 29, 2007 IP
  9. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    Can you not chargeback? I wouldn't waste my time trying to get a reply, an excuse, or a promise. If there is any possibility of getting your money back, pursue that. And once you have exhausted that option, negative rep the heck out of these guys and move on.

    Mark Cuban recently wrote on his blog,

    http://www.blogmaverick.com/2007/06/21/hedge-fund-ipos-individual-investors-should-be-careful/

    Don't be a sucker.
     
    guerilla, Jun 29, 2007 IP
  10. Swerd

    Swerd Active Member

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    how do you charge back?
    He has been suspended from elance
     
    Swerd, Jun 29, 2007 IP
  11. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    How did you pay him? Paypal? CC?
     
    guerilla, Jun 29, 2007 IP
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  12. Swerd

    Swerd Active Member

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    just CC through elance.

    I have had some progress with this issue tho.. I got an email from the director saying he is now handeling my project and I will get it in a week... Im interested to see how this goes... will update
     
    Swerd, Jun 29, 2007 IP
  13. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    My advice to you is to tell him to refund your money now.

    There is a very good chance they are trying to lead you on further.
     
    guerilla, Jun 29, 2007 IP
  14. movidalatina

    movidalatina Well-Known Member

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    #14
    cut your losses and move on-
    your time, and energy are worth more
    than that. One feels really dumb and gullible
    when such a thing happens to one. Use it as
    a learning experience.

    -Confuscious I am not -
     
    movidalatina, Jun 30, 2007 IP
  15. marketjunction

    marketjunction Well-Known Member

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    #15
    If you don't know the person and if they are in a foreign place, start small. Do one project/page/whatever at a time.

    Understand this. When you do business with people in countries that have piss poor legal systems, you're playing Roulette. And sometimes the lure of cheap labor costs you.
     
    marketjunction, Jul 1, 2007 IP
  16. Will Morgan

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    #16
    Or just don't do business with people from India, it seems they'll be more than happy to rip you off any time.

    If you look on their site it looks as if they have offices in London. If you take a look:
    http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&h...-0.132748&spn=0.001135,0.002511&t=h&z=19&om=1
    The address looks residential to me. Probably a back room business.
     
    Will Morgan, Jul 1, 2007 IP
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    My own question is why do you pay someone at Elance if there are many talented people hanged around this place.

    I came over here because good trading comments posted at another site.
     
    Mara Linz, Jul 2, 2007 IP
  18. XandroZ

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    #18
    everywhere are scammers is not about the place
    I never do bussines with people from country where it's not a good legislation in the domain.
    if it is from india i think you can get your money back
     
    XandroZ, Jul 2, 2007 IP
  19. bizman911

    bizman911 Member

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    I think you have no way to get the money back, like my case I wait too long to make a chargeback because i hope the provider will finish his work but every scammer will keep promise but they never do that so we will be in the trap. I hope you have a lesson to deal with provider in India for outsource service. Here is my case if you concern : http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=378720
     
    bizman911, Jul 2, 2007 IP
  20. Swerd

    Swerd Active Member

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    good news.. I have received 1 of the 3 guides.. .I am suppose to receive the other 2 within 24hrs..

    I think I got lucky with this one.
     
    Swerd, Jul 9, 2007 IP