Jesus praying for Muslims in the Bible!

MP Mohammed Sarwar of Glasgow condemned them as 'criminals'.

 

Is this true? If it is then why are believers of these two religions are always in conflicts?

 

Okay. So you still think it wasn't Jesus pbuh. Now I'm going to prove it verse by verse. If you deny it, I'll move to the next verse.

1 He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High
will rest in the shadow of the Almighty.

This verse tells us that Jesus was with God in His shelter and God is yet to send him (Jesus is prophecised here too). And he would later rest in His shadow when he'll be raised up alive. Shadow because God will care for him as he was rasied in a painful position. Don't quote other translations, it only makes it worse.

Did Adam and Eve ask me before eating the fruit? Or did they ask you?
Ezekiel 18:20 tells you that you shall die for your sins, not Jesus. And your wickedness shall be upon you, NOT Jesus.

*Sigh* I know of a gigantic list of errors and contradictions in the Bible which no one else than your people added. But you asked for it!

Isaiah 30:26 Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the LORD bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound.

Isaiah 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH. (KJV)

Revelation 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. (KJV)

Job 38:13 That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? (KJV)

Jeremiah 16:19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ENDS OF THE EARTH, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. (KJV)

Daniel 4:11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE EARTH: (KJV)

Matthew 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; (KJV)

And this is what Isiah actually says. Tent on a flat circular earth!

"He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in. (From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 40:22)"

Want me continue? I don't want to because it makes me sad when I do that. The Bible was once the pure word of God.

Wanna know about science in the Quran?

The contradictions and scientific errors are the proof of why you find "begotten" in there.

Trust me, the city of Jews was not a fool. They knew it was an Arab prophet.

Stop misquoting!
This is the verse:
[19:33] And peace be upon me the day I was born, the day I die, and the day I get resurrected."
Jesus is saying that he was born, he will de when he comes back on earth and will be resurrected on the Day of Judgment.

 

Because the authors of Bible changed it far away from the truth resulting in many versions.

 

Are you forgetting the quote from Isaiah?

And why did he feel pain? Because he was injured!

 

he felt pain cause they hung Saddam

 

You fail to understand but no matter, it doesn't change anything, Psalm 91 is not exclusive to Jesus. You can continue to quote all you like Ahmad but it won't change anything. Psalm 91 confirms Gods protective care for all of his worshippers including, but not exclusive to Jesus.

Of course Adam didn't ask you or me, we weren't there!
As Romans 6:23 says, "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.". We are all sinners and as such are worthy of death but thanks to Gods mercy we have the way of salvation through the ransom sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

It's a prophecy, hence prophetic words, what are you hoping to prove?

Ahmad, in English the term "the four corners of the earth" is used to mean 'all over the earth', 'everywhere', 'no place missed out' ... it is never meant to imply that the earth literally has four corners and that is not what any of these scriptural references imply.

I don't see what you are trying to prove here either.

It doesn't say that at all, it says he was born, dies and gets resurrected ... what's to confuse?

 

My words are no worth if all you do is ignore instead of presenting an argument.
Four corners are quite different from four directions you know.
And what about the 101 contradictions in the Bible?

And you still didn't answer why Jesus said to Mary, "Touch me not".

 

Four corners is referring to the four cardinal points.

Jesus asked Mary not to touch him because he did not went to his father yet

There is no error in the Bible...It is only a lie of the devil...

 

CORNER IS DIFFERENT FROM DIRECTIONS! A square has four corners NOT four directions or cardinals!

What difference did that make?

101 contradictions is the Bible.

 

I think you should also watch this.
And if you don't have time, I can tell you about it. Dr William Campbell said about the errors in the Bible that "I don't know why God put it in there".

 

On the contrary, they are taught that they will recieve great rewards from god for terrorism. A good terrorist lighting themselves on fire, screaming allah! allah! trying to kill as many innocent people as they can is the true hero of many islamic fundamentalists. It is so twisted islam has taken a cartoon character to teach little children to hate the jews and be good little terrorists. Your defense is that the tv and news are all lying and making this stuff up? Funny.

 

[Quran 7:28] They commit a gross sin, then say, "We found our parents doing this, and GOD has commanded us to do it." Say, "GOD never advocates sin. Are you saying about GOD what you do not know?"

[Quran 6:151] "...... You shall not kill - GOD has made life sacred - except in the course of justice. These are His commandments to you, that you may understand."

[Quran17:33] "You shall not kill any person - for GOD has made life sacred - except in the course of justice. ....."

For the complete comprehensive answer, refer here.

 

Ahmad, maybe it's a problem with different nationality or background.
I have answered your points about the bible but you cling to certain words as though the words in isolation contain special spiritual significance.
To understand you must read the context and see the full picture, not pick at words.
Jesus materialised a human body as did many spirit beings before him, that was nothing new, angels in materialised flesh spoke with men and women of old, ate with them, led them and encouraged them.

The Greek verb 'HAPTO', (can't do literal Greek on my keyboard), which in some translations is translated "touch", also means 'cling to' or 'lay hold of', (Vines Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words).
So some have suggested that Mary Magdalene feared that Jesus was about to leave and ascend into heaven. Moved by her strong desire to be with her Lord, she was holding fast to Jesus, not letting him go. To assure her that he was not yet leaving, Jesus instructed Mary to stop clinging to him but instead to go and declare to his disciples the news of his resurrection.

Now I don't know if that is the case, no one does, though I think it is entirely reasonable - the important thing to remember is that after Jesus was resurrected and before he ascended to heaven he was touched by others, for example 'doubting' Thomas touched his wounds and remember he also ate bread and fish with Peter and others.

 

I think "Except in the course of justice" is what islamic fundamentalist use to justify terrorism. That makes it ok to attempt to kill innocent people at the glasgow airport right? Because iran has there panties in a knot because the UK recognized Rushdie and now they want to try to kill innocent people for revenge. Am I wrong? Don't think so.

 

The miracles in the Quran according to your signature seems to match with the scientific findings of today.

 

Notice also how the Koran says "you" shall not kill "except...."

In the Bible it says "thou shalt not kill" period.

In the Koran, every Muslim is given the authority to kill "for great justice" while in the Bible that authority lies only with the government. The 10 commandements were given to the people. The authority to punish for breaking those commandments was given to the government alone.

As it is in all civilized societies. The law is for the people. Only the government can punish for breaking those laws.

And here we have yet again a glaring flaw in Islam that prevents it from growing up.

Ahmad_Malik is trying desperatly to show the error of the terrorists ways and yet continues to reinforce the idea that the terrorists are the ones going what the Koran says.

 

First of all its the Quran not Koran. Second that is not true....if it was true then muslims would be killing people everywhere all the time...people that do that believe in it all differantly...and they claim they are muslims...

here is the Quote that was contained in Ahmad's post earlier:

 

That is what you always do. Changing translations until one of them fits your belief. No wonder that led to 101 contradictions. Believe me, I read the entire context before saying what I say.
And you're telling me about Peter? Have you read Apocalypse of Peter? Peter was the only disciple who witnessed the "crucifixion". He saw the man die in place of Jesus. And after some time, he saw ALIVE Jesus under a tree.
His complete writing is given here. This site is made Muslims including ex-Christians.

 

Where does is it say in the Quran that all Muslims can kill for Justice? And even if it does, doesn't God know what is justice and what is not? Wouldn't he punish those who kill innocents?

Where does it say in the Bible that the government has the right?