Jesus praying for Muslims in the Bible!

You make bold statements which appear powerful but their is no substance to them; you use the scriptures but you do not know their significance and therefore cannot see when you mis-quote and misunderstand them.
I do not accept the Quran as the inspired Word of God, I do not accept that the bible prophecied of anyone to come after Jesus, because Jesus, as the bible clearly states, fulfilled the Mosaic Law and paid the price for mankinds sin - no other way of salvation was required and no other Good News would be preached.

 

I'm questioning your motives. What is driving you? Why push your beliefs onto others?

 

Once John 3:16 has been identified as an interpolation, it shows begotten was never there. And these are all fabrications just to enforce the belief into the masses.

But didn't Jesus say, "No one is good except God alone"?

And isn't everybody from children of Adam? You and me? So doesn't Ezekiel apply on us too? Why are you trying to put your sins on Jesus?

What? Not specific?
The verses clearly say, HIM HIM HIM! Rescue HIM! HE will witness punishment of the wicked! no harm shall befall HIM!

And how can you deny this:

3 Surely he will save you from the fowler's snare
and from the deadly pestilence.

Don't you see it? Both Psalm and Quran tell you that it was made to appear!
Someone else died on his place on the cross!
Isiah says he will be lifted up! Just like the Quran!
And so did Jesus say, ASCEND to my father!

They are powerful and bitter truths. Otherwise you could answer them. At least the Arab prophet in Deuteronomy 18:18?

 

The fact that you deny the truth.

 

Sorry but you don't know the truth.

 

They are not powerful at all, they are in fact ridiculous and have no substance, your assertion that someone other than Jesus was put to death does not deserve an intelligent reponse; just consider the account of his mother weeping over him at his death, his speaking to his followers from his place of death etc etc etc do you profess that his own mother and his disciples didn't know him?

I will deal with your last issue of Deuteronomy 18:18:-

Deuteronomy 18:18 says, "I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him." For the record Deuteronomy is attributed to the prophet Moses, as being the writer.

So the question is, who is this prophet that Moses spoke of at Deuteronomy 18:18?

Let us consider the account of Jesus miraculously feeding the people with a few loaves and fishes, because it includes these comments directly from him saying that he was the prophet Moses spoke of:-
"Jesus said, Make the people sit down. There was plenty of grass in that place, and the men sat down, about five thousand of them. Jesus then took the loaves, gave thanks, and distributed to those who were seated as much as they wanted. He did the same with the fish. When they had all had enough to eat, he said to his disciples, Gather the pieces that are left over. Let nothing be wasted. So they gathered them and filled twelve baskets with the pieces of the five barley loaves left over by those who had eaten. After the people saw the miraculous sign that Jesus did, they began to say, Surely this is the Prophet who is to come into the world. Jesus, knowing that they intended to come and make him king by force, withdrew again to a mountain by himself."
John 6:10-15

Jesus did not deny their assertion but rather went onto warn them about seeking just the physical things that he supplied and told them about the importance of looking to him as the one God sent to earth:-

"Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. On him God the Father has placed his seal of approval. Then they asked him, What must we do to do the works God requires? Jesus answered, The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent. So they asked him, What miraculous sign then will you give that we may see it and believe you? What will you do? Our forefathers ate the manna in the desert; as it is written: 'He gave them bread from heaven to eat.' Jesus said to them, I tell you the truth, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven. For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world. Sir, they said, from now on give us this bread. Then Jesus declared, I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty.
John 6:27-35


Consider also Peter's words:-

Acts 3:13-15, "The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. You disowned the Holy and Righteous One and asked that a murderer be released to you. You killed the author of life, but God raised him from the dead. We are witnesses of this."
Yes Peter confirms that Jesus did die at the hands of the Jews and Romans and he was resurrected from that death by God.

But wait, there is more that Peter says to you to save you from your misguided views:-

Acts 3:17-24, "And now, brothers, I know that you acted in ignorance, as did also your rulers. But what God foretold by the mouth of all the prophets, that his Christ would suffer, he thus fulfilled. Repent therefore, and turn again, that your sins may be blotted out, that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, and that he may send the Christ appointed for you, Jesus, whom heaven must receive until the time for restoring all the things about which God spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets long ago. Moses said, 'The Lord God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your brothers. You shall listen to him in whatever he tells you. And it shall be that every soul who does not listen to that prophet shall be destroyed from the people.' And all the prophets who have spoken, from Samuel and those who came after him, also proclaimed these days."

Thus clearly identifying Jesus, not Mohammed or anyone else as the prophet whom Moses foretold at Deuteronomy 18:18 and whom all the other prophets pointed forward to.
Why call Jesus a prophet?
Because he spoke prophecy (see Matthew 24 for example) and as all true prophets he spoke God's Words.

 

Look at the extent of your helplessness.

1. You cannot deny that Psalm 91 refers to Jesus pbuh because it narrates the EXACT incident.

2. You cannot deny that Ezekiel 18:20 says that you will be punished for your sins.

3. You cannot deny that Jesus wasn't good. Because he himself says that.

4. You cannot deny that the Bible has scientific erorrs which are the irrefutable proof of its impurities.

5. You paint Jesus with the same brushes of son, servant and prophet of God, whichever sounds convenient at times. Like Deu 18:18 says a prophet, not "son of God"!

6. You cannot deny that Jesus stayed alive for three days and three nights. Otherwise, he wouldn't fulfill the sign of Jonah.

7. You cannot deny that God blesses those who go for pilgrimage to the Kaabah.

8. Even when Deu 18:18 says that the prophet will be from the Arabs ie the brothers of Jews and Jesus pbuh was a Jew, you insist he was the one prophecised. And Jesus never said that this prophecy referred to him!

9. You cannot deny that prophet Muhammad pbuh is prophecised by name in the Gospel of Barnabos and the Hindu Scriptures.

10. You cannot deny that Isaiah, Jesus pbuh and the Quran tell you that he was ascended to God.

Thats it.

 

Well if this is what you keep doing with the Bible, then sure, no one can know the truth.

 

Don't tell me you think the "Comforter" is muhammad - it's obvious Jesus is referring to the Holy Spirit.

If you want a reference to muhammad in the Bible, you can get it in Matthew 24:11

 

The bible record is clear, Jesus was sent to earth from heaven as God's only-begotten Son to give his perfect human life as a ransom sacrifice prefigured in the Mosaic Law and prophecied thoughout the bible. Having paid that ransom sacrifice by dying at the hands of the Jews and Romans he was resurrected from the dead by God and ascended to heaven to present the value of his sacrifice as an atonement for mankind's sin. Thanks to that sacrifice all those who exercise faith in it may gain everlasting life and enjoy a fine relationship with God.
No where in the bible does it say that some other means of salvation would arise in later periods of time after Jesus, indeed it warns that any who suggest that Jesus is not the Son of God and the way of salvation should be accursed.

 

"Worshippers"? Lol! This getting really funny! Come on! Its crystal clear God is talking about Jesus alone!

12 they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.

Who lifts you up on the cross? Or anybody you know?

Okay. Even if you say Jesus was sinless, at least it makes clear to you that you are responsible for your sins! Right?

This is where you are wrong! God is not the author of the Bible, He WAS. You have reformed it to your fitting. If it were completely from God, it wouldn't have got versions. You know, like the Quran which has no versions and is completely direct speech of God. No word of the Prophet or disciples.

The Bible says earth is flat and has four corners. God put it in there? Right.
Want me to give you some other references of errors and contradictions?

I agree that Jesus was a prophet and foretold. But son of God? Get real.

Are you insane? Jonah resurrected? Jesus said, AS JONAH WAS FOR THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS! Not AS JONAH WAS AFTER THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS. And how was Jonah in the belly of the whale? You know it, Jonah was ____ in the belly of the whale for three days and three nights. Fill in the blank yourself.

When did I say Moses wasn't a Jew? I said that Arabs are the brothers of Jews if you don't know that. And this is the reason why the whole city of Jews, Yathrib, accepted Muhammad pbuh as their prophet.
I never said Jesus wasn't prophecised. I said this prophecy isn't his.

Right. And this was "inspired" by God.

Isaiah 52:13 "...he will be raised and lifted up...
Quran: Allah raised him up Unto Himself
Jesus: I am not yet ascended to my Father

And someone else died on the cross!

Psalm 91:8 You will only observe with your eyes and see the punishment of the wicked
Quran: but so it was made to appear to them

Why don't you understand?

 

Right. Even if I didn't think so, your Christian Missionaries were too afraid to let it remain like that. And they got "inspired" to change it.

 

Ahmad you twist my words or you reply without reading them, that is no way to engage in a discussion.

Psalm 91 is not specific to Jesus, it illustrates Gods care for all of His faithful worshippers and includes Jesus as the most faithful of those. It cartainly has nothing to do with Jesus being lifted up on a cross - you may suggest otherwise but that is incorrect.

All humans inherited sin from our original parents Adam and Eve, as such yes we are 'responsible' for the bad things that we do but because we inherited that sin and hence we are not 'ultimately' responsible God in His great love sent Jesus to pay the price to rescue us from that sin.

The bible does not say that the earth is flat and with four corners (except in an illustrative way in Revelation) in fact at Isaiah 40:22 it says of God, " He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth"

If it comes between a choice of believing you or the bible there is no contest, the bible and Jesus himself confirms that he is God's only-begotten Son.

You say the prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:18 does not apply to Jesus, but again the bible says it does and Jesus says it does as I have already shown - if it comes to believing you or Jesus and the bible, you lose!

Nobody died in Jesus place, it is your personal fairy tale ... even in the Quran it says Jesus says this:-

Yes he died and was raised alive to ascend to his Father in heaven to present the atonement value of his sacrifice, just as prefigured by all of the atonement sacrifices made under the Mosaic Law.

 

I know the Hindu religion is a pagan one according to the Bible and now to say that Mohammad name is in the hindu scriptures clearly associate Islam to Hinduism...

 

I think both christianity and islam are false teachings. But if I actually were a believer in all these fairy tales, I would tend to think islam is evil/satanic. All these crazy people going around trying to kill innocent people in the name of allah. The glasgow airport terrorists were screaming allah, allah! All muslims may not be terrorists, but most terrorists are muslim. You can judge a tree by the fruit it bears.

 

You must be watching TV too much!

 

You're saying everything yourself. He WAS raised up ALIVE and WILL DIE On Earth When He Comes Back!

Secondly in that verse, Why did Jesus Say To Mary that "Touch Me Not"
It was because was hurt and was in pain. Do Spirits "feel" pain????
I think NOT
And Later He Ate That Honeycomb and Boiled Fish.
Can Spirits EAT??
I think NOT

Everything is in front of you but you still deny. Stubborns.

 

You don't read the news? You didn't hear about 2 attempted bombings in london that were caught ahead of time, and then the glasgow airport that wasn't? You are unaware of 911 maybe? Islamic terrorist training camps? Ever heard of the taliban or al-qaeda? Have you heard of the al Hesbah chat room where they knew about the bombing before it took place?
You have been watching tv to little!

 

Thats right.
Ceazy people, not Muslims. Killing innocent people sends one out of Islam.

And the TV and NEWS are not reliable sources, because they don't tell you what the real Muslims are doing to rectify terrorists. They show you the minority magnified.

 

Actually that was a comment from the Quran, not the bible.

Jesus materialized a human body after his resurrection just like many angels had done before him ... angels were fed by men long before Jesus came to earth.