I really can't understand you Guys , why are you still using Paypal as the main payment system. Isn't it obvious that paypal is only good for trading at ebay. In this forum it must be the worst way to deal as all products we are selling or buying are digital or service, and buyers ( scammers ) can get money back so easily with paypal charge backs. Also paypal is not supported in many countries ( you can only buy and not sell or withdraw ) . We all have such a good alternative as moneybookers.com ( lower fees , accepted worldwide , easy deposit and cashout , no charge backs , cheap escrow service ) . I've read many threads like " I got scammed using my paypal " , " My account is limited " " How to verify my acc using VCC "and ect And have never read bad about moneybookers.com Yes I agree that paypal is the most popular, but it's we, who make it popular here in DP , but it's the most bad payment system for such people like we are . I've verified Premium account at paypal and never had any problems , but I still really think that they sucks. I'm trying to avoid using paypal here and offering my buyers to complete the deal using moneybookers.com , but most of you still stuck on paypal . I'm opening this thread in order you guys , to think again is it really worth to use paypal here in DP ? I really can't understand why r u not using moneybookers.com , e-gold , neteller ( most prefered is moneybookers for me ) . Wish you luck
I am a customer and I use Paypal to make payments and as such Paypal provides me better protection against sellers who takes my money and not deliver. Moneybookers does not provide me with any real security as a customer and there is the additional steps which I need to take to fund my account. With Paypal, my credit card is charged exactly the amount which I need to pay.
it all deponds, paypal helps scammers to cheat sellers! money bookers helps scammers to cheat buyers! since money bookers gives bank transfer, so money bookers is my first choise! but then if you deal with reputed people, either way you don't lose!
I don't really care if it's a Paypal or MoneyBookers. But I feel sorry for the people that can't use Paypal (many countries are still not supported) and get penalized in some way or another when doing business here on DP.
yes Moneybookers is my best payment systems no control for money transfer. when you got 200 Euro with Paypal than is your account limited without reason!
how do we deal on ebay? i sell a lo on ebay, and the safest way to both buy and sell.. cc's are much safer on charge backs..but thats not what most ebay buyers think..
Can you also explain this ? I received thousands of dollars per transaction via Paypal and I never had problem. As long as you do your due diligence and deal with only people who are trusted then that should be no problem.
No you're not right m8 , moneybookers also offer very cheap escrow so if you're a buyer you can always send money with escrow , I've done it many times and never had a problem
Ok Eddy here is my point Ex You're trusted member and have good website worth 600$ , will you sell it using paypal to a new DP member ? As for me I'll never I'll prefer moneybookers , as buyer have protection thru escrow service , and I'll not be cheated by chargebacks
Convenience... Paypal still have more coverage than moneybookers. Depends on where you live. And many people already have a paypal account. I agree moneybookers is OK. The good thing with Paypal is that it's linked to my bank account so it's convenient to fund and withdraw from it... plain simple. Same with moneybookers too. I can't do that with e-gold so you have to use exchangers, spending fees and taking the risk of being scammed. Chargeback is a double-edged sword. If you get scammed with moneybookers you will not get your money back. At most they will close the scammer's account. Paypal is fine if you trust the seller or the risk is deemed to be limited. For larger amounts escrow should be used. Paypal is no worse than credit cards.
Man, you live in a really small world. Most people have never even heard of DP, but they have heard of Pay Pal and have an account. Pay Pal is used by most amount of people, has never had a major security problem, is not known for fishing scams, and Nigerian fraud groups, and it is the most easily acceptable by the largest majority of people. The interest rate is better than most, and they don't mess around with a bunch of fancy payment schemes like, gold, and platinum, and such. It's cash for cash. Dude, DP, although a great place, is just a forum...it is not the Society of all internet Business Professionals. You need to get into the world. It's bigger than forums.
money bookers suck, when i wanted to get some money form them into my banck account it took around a month. Thats why i use paypal. All my partner use paypal and we had no problems.
lol. Only 3-5 days to transfer MB Fund to your bank account. What's wrong w/ your bank wire transfer ???
Paypal is so much easier to use, and everyone uses it. I'm also based in the US, so it makes sense. Moneybooker rates are slightly less, however my bank and credit card charge be a $15 finance charge when I add money to my Moneybookers account, which is way too much. They charge that because Moneybooker's bank is not in the US. Transferring money to Paypal is free.
I use paypal but just not as my primary source of payment and alot of you are stuck on it. Verisign and major company's like that provide something so much better for getting transactions done online and it looks so much betters, its integrated with your site, and you will not be taken to another site to complete the transaction. I am getting tired of paypal my self
I use PayPal almost exclusively... convenient, linked to bank account, plus I have a Paypal debit card I can use anywhere.
The answer is simple - paypal is more popular. I use pp and mb and can say that they work well both. The onliest problem of PayPal is it's very poor security system. Poor doesn't mean that it isn't protecting people from scam well, it means that for PayPal everybody is scammer, so any people can have problems with pp doesn't matter is he scammer or not. As for moneybookers, as I said, it isn't very popular and that's a problem. As for e-gold, it isn't very good system since funds can't be withdrew/added to account and there is no security system to protect people from scam. So paypal is like windows - not all like it, but everybody need to use Hope Linux (menybookers) will be common too, so people will have an alternative Thanks Tim