Jesus praying for Muslims in the Bible!

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  1. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #41
    JESUS WAS SIMPLY SAYING BY "THEIR WORD" - MEANS "SPOKEN CONFESSION" THAT HE IS LORD OF LORDS AND KING OF KINGS. IT DOESN'T POINT TO ANY OTHER THING THEN TO HIMSELF. IF YOU READ THE BIBLE THEN YOU WILL FIND OUT THAT A BELIEVER HAS TO CONFESS WITH "SPOKEN WORDS" OUT OF A BELIEVERS MOUTH.

    MUSLIMS LIKE TO INTERPRET EVERYTHING TOWARDS THE QURAN. BETTER GIVE UP, IT DOESN'T WORK.
     
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  2. Ahmad_Malik

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    #42
    You're mixing everything up.
    Lets put it one by one.

    1. Son of God merely means servant of God. "Behold, my servant shall deal prudently.." Isaiah 52:13. And where does Jesus say God begot him? Don't refer to John 3:16. I hope you know why.

    2. Salvation? Why doesn't Ezekiel 18:20 say "Jesus sall die for the soul that sinneth and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon Jesus"?

    3. And he was crucified and resurrected?
    But wasn't God supposed to protect him as He promised in Psalm 91:
    1 He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High
    will rest in the shadow of the Almighty.

    2 I will say of the LORD, "He is my refuge and my fortress,
    my God, in whom I trust."

    3 Surely he will save you from the fowler's snare
    and from the deadly pestilence.


    4 He will cover you with his feathers,
    and under his wings you will find refuge;
    his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart.

    5 You will not fear the terror of night,
    nor the arrow that flies by day,


    6 nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness,
    nor the plague that destroys at midday.
    (These refer to the fact that he stayed alive for three days and three nights to fulfill the sign of Jonah)

    7 A thousand may fall at your side,
    ten thousand at your right hand,
    but it will not come near you.

    8 You will only observe with your eyes
    and see the punishment of the wicked.
    (According to the Noble Quran , Jesus was not crucified, and he watched the crucifixion of the doomed person. Read the verse of the Quran at the end).

    9 If you make the Most High your dwelling—
    even the LORD, who is my refuge-

    10 then no harm will befall you,
    no disaster will come near your tent.

    11 For he will command his angels concerning you
    to guard you in all your ways;


    12 they will lift you up in their hands,
    so that you will not strike your foot against a stone
    . (If Jesus died on the cross and got buried, then his feet would've struck the ground and the stones on it from bringing him down, throwing him on the floor and burying him).

    13 You will tread upon the lion and the cobra;
    you will trample the great lion and the serpent.

    14 "Because he loves me," says the LORD, "I will rescue him;
    I will protect him
    , for he acknowledges my name.

    15 He will call upon me, and I will answer him; (Rings a bell? "Oh Lord! Oh Lord! Why have you forsaken me?")
    I will be with him in trouble,
    I will deliver him and honor him.

    16 With long life will I satisfy him
    and show him my salvation."

    "That they rejected Faith; That they uttered against Mary A grave false charge; That they said (in boast): 'We killed Christ Jesus The son of Mary, The Messenger of Allah.' But they killed him not, Nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not. Nay, Allah raised him up Unto Himself; and Allah Is Exalted in Power, Wise. And there is none of the people of the book (Jews and Christians) But must believe in him (Jesus) Before his death; And on the Day of Judgment He (Jesus) will be a witness Against them. (The Noble Quran, 4:156-159)"

    Isaiah 52:13 "...he will be raised and lifted up...."

    Note the striking resemblance?

    And why did he say to Mary, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. (John 20:17) Because he survived the attempt by the Jews and was hurt but not dead! He had to ascend to God!

    4. Why does God bless pilgrimage to Baca (modern day Mecca) at several places in the Bible?

    5. Why are there so many scientific errors in the Bible but none in the Quran?

    6. Who put Muhammad's pbuh name in the Hindu scriptures and the Gospel of Barnabos?

    7. Which prophet from the Arabs fulfilled the Deuteronomy 18:18 prophecy after Moses pbuh?

    8.
    There are eyewitness accounts of the Holy Spirit appearing and disappearing in person in front of Prophet Muhammad pbuh. Why won't you believe them?
     
    Ahmad_Malik, Jun 29, 2007 IP
  3. Ahmad_Malik

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    #43
    Wow! 20000 Americans falling for "war and conquest" every year.
    And 1.5 million in total.

    This is the way to source it Gtech. Not blogs, but CNN and Fox.
     
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  4. Ahmad_Malik

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    #44
    The prophecy says, Prophet named Muhammad from Arabia. Does that ring a bell?
     
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    #45
    I only have one question. How could Jesus be praying for Muslims when Islam didn't come around until 800 years after Jesus died?
     
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  6. Ahmad_Malik

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    #46
    He said, those who shall believe in him.
    He knew they were to come.
    And Islam was the religion of every Prophet. And Muhammad pbuh was the last one.
     
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  7. MafiaMaster

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    #47
    What about the Jewish prophets? Islam is not the religion of the Jewish prophets.
     
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  8. Ahmad_Malik

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    #48
    Stories of 25 Prophets are mentioned in the Quran. They include ALL the Jewish ones you'd know. And some about whom there was no historic evidence until their forgotten cities were discovered by excavation!
     
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  9. MafiaMaster

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    #49
    Alright, so the Quran does say that there were Jewish prophets. Now, I know nothing of the Quran (unfortunately, I hear it beautifully written) and I have many Islamic friends, but if the Quran includes all Jewish prophets, why do the radical Islamic terrorists say that the Quran says Jews should be killed?
     
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  10. sebastya

    sebastya Well-Known Member

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    #50
    Ahmad_Malik, what's your problem? are you that insecure about Islam that you have to prove it's the right religion with an endless supply of useless threads/posts?

    No one cares.
     
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  11. KalvinB

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    #51
    What prophecy?
     
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  12. Sherlock

    Sherlock Well-Known Member

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    #52
    Does It Burn? :rolleyes:
     
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  13. Sherlock

    Sherlock Well-Known Member

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    #53
    Again dodgy posts. Why dont you reply to the upper posts first! :D
    I know you are speechless!
    Great Post Ahmad!!
     
    Sherlock, Jun 29, 2007 IP
  14. sebastya

    sebastya Well-Known Member

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    #54
    does what burn?
     
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  15. Sherlock

    Sherlock Well-Known Member

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    #55
    you know it happens when someone is trying to show the truth. Dont reply me, reply his posts.
     
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  16. sebastya

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    #56
    hahaha, yeah that must be it :rolleyes:
     
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    #57
    yeah, umm...like people don't like to be corrected;) and start talking nonesense and go totally off-topic.

    by the way Great Info Ahmad:)
     
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  18. Ahmad_Malik

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    #58
    Brother, God will ask you why didn't you read the Quran yourself when He sent it for you?
    It's best if you read the Quran yourself here.
    And there are Muslims who hate Jews personally. The Quran tells Muslims to be friends with them in Quran 60:8. :)
     
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    #59
    Both in the Hindu scriptures I posted and the Gospel of Barnobas. I have quoted both of them in this thread. Read them yourself.
     
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  20. Ahmad_Malik

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    #60
    Try to disprove me instead of badmouthing.
     
    Ahmad_Malik, Jun 30, 2007 IP