Paying for PR

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by guruguy, Jun 27, 2007.

  1. #1
    Hi,

    I have recently bought a site of Site Point that has been established for around a bit over a year. I am new to the business of buying websites, and it was an impulse buy that I regret a bit. However I recently did a revamp of the site and to my surprise I got 2 sales. Now back to my point, the biggest competition to me is a site that is PR4, and is a simple html site, like mine. How much would it cost to firstly acheive a PR5 site from nothing, and secondly, how much to maintain it? If I have the same keywoards targeted as the competing site, and have a higher PR, woud this be successful at getting higher results than them in google?

    Also, if I jumped immediately from PR0 to PR4 or 5, would I be penalized by google?
     
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  2. MeetHere

    MeetHere Prominent Member

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    #2
    Nobody can tell how much is needed to achieve PR5 or 6..
    You need to buy one-way links from high PR websites or directories...

    No nobody can be penalized on getting sudden pr boost.
    Infact people get PR6 from PR0 ;)
     
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  3. allout

    allout Prominent Member

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    #3
    Higher PR will not get you higher results in Google. The best thing to do is find back links that are closely related to your niche. this will hep with both PR and traffic. As your traffic builds and your content builds, your serps will build. PR5 means nothing if you have no traffic. Work harder on building traffic and less on PR.
     
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  4. NoobieDoobieDo

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    #4
    I don't think you get penalized for PR jumps. One of my sites went from PR0 -> PR4 in one update.

    "Total cost of ownership" for your links can varry greatly. Link prices range from very cheap to very expensive depending on what you are going after. Even links within the same PR can have large ranges in price.
     
    NoobieDoobieDo, Jun 27, 2007 IP
  5. Frobber

    Frobber Well-Known Member

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    Its hard to say but I think you have to spend around $1500 - $2000 to get a PR5 with paid inbound links
     
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    KingNomar Well-Known Member

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    Just try to find strong backlinks, you can pay for some, no problem. Just make sure it is a strong site where you advertise on. You can also optimize your site more, but watch out for Over-Optimization.
     
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  7. Munna007

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    Hi..

    Is it Possible ? If yes How Can ?

    Thanks
     
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  8. thegypsy

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    Why do you care? What a waste of money....

    Are you selling text links or something from your site?

    Increasing from PR4 to PR5 in no way gurantees higher rankings/more visitors....
     
    thegypsy, Jun 27, 2007 IP
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    Frobber Well-Known Member

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    I would suggest to vary your anchor text. Don't use only your top keywords. I recommend to have around 30-40% with the url itself as anchor text.

    Natural links are in most cases not only keywords specific.

    As an example for the domain: ebay.com possible anchor texts are:

    auctions
    online auctions
    sell online
    buy online
    ebay.com
    ebay
    www.ebay.com
    http://www.ebay.com
    Ebay Auction
    ebay.com Online Auctions
    ....
     
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  10. poksa

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    #10
    You Don't need to spend money to get PR 5... there are many ways to achieve that, besides PR is nothing if you don't achieved your SERPS and Conversion.
     
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  11. trichnosis

    trichnosis Prominent Member

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    on the other side , you can not immediately jump from pr 0 to pr 5. you must wait nearly for 3 months. for this time period, google will find so many thinks about your site:)
     
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  12. guruguy

    guruguy Active Member

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    Thanks for the replies. I have a lone successful competitior in an empty market, so I am trying to get myself to the top of the search engines. It is clear that this website has made a huge effort at SEO (Some words have 10% density), and it has paid off for them. I am trying to compete with the same words as them, so my basic logic is that if my keywords are as good as theirs and I have better backlinks, I will have a higher ranking. Is this the right way to think about it or am I missing something?

    In this market, about 50% of sales come from search engines and 50% from word of mouth, so SEO is a major thing for me.
     
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    I don't think a PR5 would be that much difficult.
    Start building links and in 3-5 months you're there.
    If you have a budget to spend to links you can get even higher in less time.
     
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    Jim4767 Prominent Member

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    Then Google is lying? — http://www.google.com/technology/

    Quote: "The heart of our software is PageRankâ„¢ ... PageRank continues to play a central role in many of our web search tools."

    Quote: "Google combines PageRank with sophisticated text-matching techniques to find pages that are both important and relevant to your search."
     
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    yeah, jumong is right. there are many ways to achieve it.
     
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    Who the hell cares about pagerank. The aim is to get more visitors to you're site who want to buy things not to beat you're competitors's pagerank.
     
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    Unfortunately that is OLD info and since 2004 Google has heavily delavued PR in the ranking process. It is certainly not worth NEARLY as much as folks seem to think...

    I interviewd folks like Danny Sullivan, Jill Whalen and other luminaries for an article on PR last fall... to a person they said they don't pay much attention to Google TBPR.... I asked Matt... but he couldn't comment much because of the Kinderstart case at the time....

    http://www.site-reference.com/articles/Search-Engines/The-Google-Toolbar-PageRank-Demystified.html
     
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  20. yogesh sarkar

    yogesh sarkar Well-Known Member

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    What you need to focus on is quality traffic, not PR! You need to first recognize which keywords/long tail phrases can bring you traffic that is actually interested in making a purchase and then target them.
     
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