enough about pakistan already, what about iran?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by sukithesnake, Jun 27, 2007.

  1. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #41
    Doesn't look like it to me. In fact, you've ripped off numerous people here. A common thief. What question did you have, before you are banned?
     
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    ThraXed Peon

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    #42
    and no i havent ripped anyone off. you can go cry to the mods all you want but at the end of the day you still have no friends and have 11 thousand posts on a forum.

    Now reply to the quote
     
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  3. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #43
    As I said, it was a split government Hamas had the majority. Fatah was in the minority. Do you believe that gives Hamas the right to kill off Fatah members and start a civil war inside the west bank? :confused:
     
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  4. The Webmaster

    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    #44
    Doesnt surprise me a bit.

    I have dealt with Maini in the past, even when he was banned on DP. he is a nice and professional guy, and very co-operative.
     
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  5. ltd

    ltd Well-Known Member

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    #45
    I perfectly understand your frustration; I don't mind you opening a thread like this, if it gives you few moments of relaxation.


    On topic: I see many replies like racist, and what do you call America then?
    America and allies can have whatever weapon they want but not the countries.
    Whatever goes to top has to fall one day, It’s the law of nature, watch out America.
     
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  6. ThraXed

    ThraXed Peon

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    #46
    putin says hamas are not a terrorist organization yet you insist they are
     
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  7. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #47
    Yes. I understand you believe the opinions of other people; but look at Hamas' record and see if you can manage to think for yourself.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas#Suicide_attacks

    http://news.monstersandcritics.com/...used_Palestinian_militants_of_&quotwar_crimes
    Then we can read the Hamas Charter and see what they say, about themselves:

    http://www.mideastweb.org/hamas.htm

    Yes, Russia does not consider Hamas a terrorist organization; but you shouldn't let others do your thinking for you. Do their actions support them being called what they are, terrorists? They sure do.
     
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    ThraXed Peon

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    #48
    no because they are just fighting for freedom against israel its simple
     
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  9. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #49
    hamas' charter says they are out to kill jews. If, by freedom, you mean they want to exterminate the jewish people, then I guess you have a point. ;)
     
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    ThraXed Peon

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    #50
    yes they are occupieing their land illegally
     
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  11. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #51
    how so? we've already learned you have no knowledge of history of israel. Please read a little and learn just a little reality before posting something stupid again

    http://www.masada2000.org/historical.html
     
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    ThraXed Peon

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    #52
    yes, you ovbioulsy have no idea what you are talking about.IT WAS ILLEGAL FOR THE UK AND USA TO SPLIT PALESTINE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
     
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  13. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #53
    the USA wasn't involved, first of all. Please try again. Try reading this time

    http://www.masada2000.org/historical.html

    When you are done, please let me know if a country called palestine run by palestinians ever existed. Then we can continue.
     
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    ThraXed Peon

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    #54
    they were involved, it was the UK AND USA not just the UK.

    and before 1948, what is now called israel was called PALESTINE. you can ask anyone and they will tell you that.
     
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  15. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #55
    The UK controlled the mandate. The UN made the final partition in 1947 or something. Please read the link. It'll help your psychosis. It really will.

    The total area (including Jordan, FYI) was called Palestine since the Romans had control over the area. There has never been a palestine, run by palestinians (jewish palestinians, arabs etc) in the history of the area.

    Please continue to read. You are doing well so far.

    http://www.masada2000.org/historical.html

    Next, we should discuss what the land was before the jews made it livable (hint, it was a swamp). Then we can discuss what brought the Arabs to the area in large numbers (hint - better living conditions after jews got rid of the swamps and made it more fertile). A further help to you, is to realize the many of the Jews in Israel are palestinians themselves.

    Then you read up on the Hebron massacres 1929, and the Arab Revolt. Maybe some of this will help clear your head a little.

    I'm glad you are conceding points each time though and moving the target. It really shows me that you realize how weak your argument is.
     
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  16. sukithesnake

    sukithesnake Peon

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    #56
    weak argument, resorts to abuse, looks like he should join the BNP or KKK, would meet a lot of similarly ill informed abusive comrades there!
    it is all to easy to take the lid of the middle east and come out with glib generalisations 'the jews shouldn't be in palestine', 'hamas and hezbollah do not use terrorism', 'iran is not a world threat'. but the middle east is full of contradictions, such as the fact that most palestinians saw saddam as a hero and supported his heinous acts in iraq, hezbollah are a thorn in the side of lebanon, flouting their laws and killing innocent lebanese, the isrealis were amongest the first to offer substantial aid to fleeing kurdish refugees after the first gulf war.
    and we all surely disagree with american foreign policy, but that doesn't mean we have to jump on the back of every arab activist and support their blood lust. i know many ordinary americans who feel just as strongly about bush's foreign policy, but they should no more be judged by their goverments incompetence than we should be judged by ours.
    measured argument and debate with facts to back up what you are saying is the only way forward. unless of course you are a hormone bound adolescent who knows no better.
     
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    eXe Notable Member

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    #57
    Iran is an extremist islamic state.

     
    eXe, Jun 28, 2007 IP