I got links from a PR9 directory and --> from page 10 to page 1 in Google & revenue..

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  1. billybw

    billybw Peon

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    #41
    I don't understand how the Google ranking could have jumped only one day after the new links were created. Doesn't it take longer than one day for Google to find and incorporate new links into their analysis of the sites PR. Also, isn't there an aging factor with new links in that Google gives them a very low weight initially after they are found.

    In other words, I don't understand how the new links could have had such a big effect in one day.
     
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  2. vex

    vex Peon

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    #42
    I also wish so. Coz if the increase in SERPs did not come from that new link, then, there will even be more increase from the new link. But since I didn't really do a lot of SEO work recently, I supose it is from the new link, perhaps some trust rank in that my previous links were never from a highly trusted site though they were from high PR sites.

    I also believe the aging factor, but this might be some other factor, something like pure "trust" given to the site.
     
    vex, Jun 26, 2007 IP
  3. Biju

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    #43
    I do not think so. May be you are lucky one.
     
    Biju, Jun 26, 2007 IP
  4. nate_king1

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    #44
    Can we see your results, the website, the directory that published your link, etc.
     
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  5. Chris01273

    Chris01273 Active Member

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    #45
    I agree,
    this is a members forum and we are all part of a community here.
    We should be helping each other by sharing info.
     
    Chris01273, Jun 26, 2007 IP
  6. fyo

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    #46
    Since the information was not being revealed I did a little experiment.

    Looking at his past posts I found links in his sig (notice not showing sig in these posts) regarding Canadian University Forums in particular univforum.com

    Checked back links in yahoo (univforum.com), looked for .edu links, traced back to the pr9 website.

    Key Words: Canadian University Forums
    http://www.univforum.com gets page 1 google (position #3)
    start http://vlib.org/ PR9
    Choose Education Link
    http://www.csu.edu.au/education/library.html PR7 .edu
    Choose Regional Authority
    http://www.csu.edu.au/education/authority.html PR6 .edu
    Scroll down to
    http://www.univforum.com/

    Did I crack the code?
     
    fyo, Jun 27, 2007 IP
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  7. kausik

    kausik Active Member

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    #47
    He'll not share as no one won't share ranking secret! We better find edu site with pr 9 by ourselves :(

    But I wonder how an irrelevant site can help even if a edu or gov or pr 10!! Any one has any other idea ?
     
    kausik, Jun 27, 2007 IP
  8. fizfaz

    fizfaz Well-Known Member

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    #48
    fyo.. thanks for your experiment.. :D
    I think all should be do more experiment after this.. :)
     
    fizfaz, Jun 27, 2007 IP
  9. web_master

    web_master Well-Known Member

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    #49
    would you mind sharing this with us
     
    web_master, Jun 27, 2007 IP
  10. kodin

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    #50
    great thread.... i would try this way now...
     
    kodin, Jun 27, 2007 IP
  11. Idiot Inside

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    #51
    I agree with what you said.

    But could you post some screenshots to back your opinion/suggestion?
     
    Idiot Inside, Jun 27, 2007 IP
  12. jumong79

    jumong79 Banned

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    #52
    Nice work congrats dude.
     
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  13. priyakochin

    priyakochin Banned

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    #53
    Thankz dear !

    I was also having one incident like this !
    One of my site is having PR4 but its only having few backlinks (below 500).
    I just found out that this comes from some high PR sites
     
    priyakochin, Jun 27, 2007 IP
  14. parveen121

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    #54
    I think Page rank 9 directories are very few. I dont know from which directory you got the link
     
    parveen121, Jun 27, 2007 IP
  15. kirby009

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    #55
    this a good story and it proves a point . the high links do a good job and little ones do nothing.
     
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  16. vex

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    #56
    OK. Here are a few things:

    1. As I said above, I will not share the link or the site. I have never even put it as a sig link.

    2. As I said above, the link does not come from a regular directory. You do not simply "submit" a link. You need to contact the webmaster of the page, and then he/she will list you, too.

    3. My links are not PR9. PR9 is the .edu page. The links to my pages are PR7 and PR6.

    4. This is not a very difficult thing to find. Every university has some page where they list some sites, at least some fans do it. My suggestion is to do a backlink check on the top ranking sites in your niche, and then find where their links are coming from. And ask the webmasters of those links to link to your sites. It is that simple. :)
     
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  17. vex

    vex Peon

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    #57

    Exactly!! This is such an easy thing to do. Believe me, it is easier to ask .edu people to link to you than submit your site to a directory and get rejected. Many IT people in universities list some relevant sites; ask them to link to you. Students do the same. Most of the time, as long as your site is decent, they will be more than willing to link to your site.

    OK. since this topic has gotten this much attention, I will give you guys a good tip:
    , then,
    TIP of the day: Say, you have a hotel or travel-related website. And universities have PR6/PR7 conference pages, right? OK. What do those universities do when they have conference pages? They list possible ways of accommodation in the area, because many people travel to the site of the conference to attend it. They list the hotels in the area, and stuff like that. OK. Now, what you need to do then is to contact the webmaster of that conference page, and say, "hey, my site gives such an such info about hotels, etc. You can link to it" Then, they will be more than happy to do so. Same could be done for any niche, not just hotels or travel.
     
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  18. seo-boy

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    #58
    A .edu link would sure help a lot. But I don't think it would increase your SERPs so quickly. LING AGE is what is important. I think what happened is you probably got out of the sandbox recently, and you THOUGHT it was because of the link or it might be because of your previous links working now. You know, aging is very important. Both your site should age and the link... A PR7 link would help a lot, but it should be old a little bit, at least like one month.
     
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  19. seo-boy

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    #59
    Also, what you've experienced might be something to do with the recent Google update, especially since you said the same effect was not true for Yahoo and MSN.

    I strongly believe that it has to do with the update, or at least with some Google dance. Sometimes that happens. Sometimes my blog ranks on page 10, and sometimes page 1.

    Your site will sure rank on page 1 in the future, but for the moment, what you see is probably smething temporary. You will go from page 1 to other pages and then come back to page 1. This kind of dancing is quite normal.

    Your high PR link will help of course, but that will take effect once the link (and your site to some extent) gets old. You will best see the effects around 2 months later. :)
     
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  20. vex

    vex Peon

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    #60
    I am afraid you are right. :( Apparently, my ranking that high for the competitive keywords was a short time effect. Today, I am on the 2nd and 3rd pages for those keywords. Maybe this is because of what you said: Google dance. In any case, I hope, the links will show effect in the long run, and I will one day sit on the first page permanently.

    Thanks to everyone for the comments! Today, I got one more .edu link by using the same technique. Seriously, I started to think that asking .edu people to link to you (from their director-like pages) is an easier job than trying to submit to regular directories and expecting them to accept your submissions. With one caveat though: You need to have a decent website, perhaps related to science (all my sites are related to an area of science) or something related to side areas of what universities offer: like conferences... If you have a travel website, then you can ask the webmaster of the conference to link to you. Or if you have a local website, then you can ask the local university to link to you. They will be more than happy to do so.
     
    vex, Jun 28, 2007 IP