Number of Americans who believe Saddam-9/11 tie rises to 41 percent

Shocked by the idiocy actually. AGS doesn't even bother defending his ridiculuous 9/11 beliefs anymore. He's been beaten down so many times, and he runs away like a little girl. They just don't hold up.

People who believe them are either gullible, stupid or have an axe to grind against america. Which are you?

 

I don't know who did the 9/11 thingy. Nor do I know and/or support Al-Qaeda or Taliban.
But this is a pretty interesting fact that the only thing that survived the explosions and fire were passports of the Arabs who caused the crash. Flabbergasting!

 

It would be an interesting fact if it were true, I suppose. Too bad that other papers/documents/items/luggage survived as well.

 

More than 2000 degrees Celcius.
The aeroplanes melted. But papers survived.
Lets make fireproof jackets out of them.

 

That's the intelligent sort of response I suspect from someone who has seen the truth.

 

Ok lorien1973, please answer all the 'false accusations' here - http://mindprod.com/politics/bush911insidejob.html#INSIDEJOB

 

This is even more interesting.

 

Do I -really- have to waste my time? Are you going to read anything I type? AGS doesn't. Or, when I respond, are you simply going to move the target to another issue without debating the previous one that falls apart?

I'll start here. The buildings didn't fall down perfectly as you believe. There was much damage to surrounding buildings. WTC7 notably, who had about 25% of its facing surface destroyed by the collapsing buildings. Many surrounding buildings also had damage to their exterior as well. Have you not seen pictures of the immediate aftermath?

Here is a link to the free fall fallacy:
http://www.debunking911.com/freefall.htm

Would you like me to continue, or are you doing to read the fallacy, attempt to understand it (probably fail) then move onto something else?

I'll continue anyways...

No, they are not. The WTC was designed to be hit by a smaller plane going at landing speeds (not at cruising speed), which is slower than the planes that hit the towers. The fuel was not taken into account during an impact either. This has been mentioned many times. Have you failed to read or learn this in your quest for truth? The impact of planes blew off what little insulation was on the supporting structure.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/minu-trans.html

Steel loses about 50% of its structural integrity at the temperature jet fuel burns. The building is (obviously) not meant to lose structural integrity of that magnitude. The amazing this, is how long the towers managed to stand afterwards.

And which way would you expect them to fall when they collapsed? Left or right? Why would you expect that? The main portion (the top 15-20 floors or so) came down onto the structure in one piece. It wasn't someone pushing over the building. It was a downward impact. Thus, amazingly, a little bit of physics took over. Did you miss this in your quest for truth too?

 

Maybe you should read here - http://911research.wtc7.net/materials/wtc/twintowers.html

I know Americans think they are great but even the laws of physics apply there!

Also, you only addressed one issue (and addressed it incorrectly). There is no mention of why all the rubble was shipped off to China within a few days...

Why the CIA have not released CCTV from the Pentagon?

Not to mention all the cock-ups made by Rumsfeld, Guliani and Bush on the day - they couldnt even get their story straight!

 

Am I to understand that you simply regurgitating things and you have not put forth any thought for yourself? This is typical of troofers. Barf out what other people have written. Completely trusting in Alex Jones or some other conspiracy guy; while everyone else HAS to be lying.

As I said, fuel was not taken into account. This has been stated over and over again. Did you fail to read this? Or understand the implications? Also, they were designed to hit at landing speed, not at cruising speed. Do you not understand that either?

"suggests" the core was barely damaged.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prybdMvHB2k
Here is a video of the likely impact of the plane into the building. Watch the other videos if you are truly wanting to end your quest for the troof.

Yep. It's totally shocking that there'd be confusion on the day it all happened. I'm shocked and stunned.

Are you conceding every other point? Is this your point here?

Video from the pentagon has been released, has it not? Are you also going to ponder whether a plane hit the pentagon? I'm sure you have 6' holes you'd like to bring up and some cartoon physics you'd like to talk about, wouldnt you?

 

I wish I could figure out these cartoon physics.... understanding real physics keeps getting in the way of the trufth!


true physics

 

This one is better:



Just a pre-emption for the inevitable "pentagon" post that is coming up.

It's a coverup so vast, here is a list of people who -have- to be involved in it to make it happen:

 

But they had planned this and should have had all the answers ready at the tip of their tongues... just show how dumb they are they couldn't remember what "the official story" was going to be.

I swear we picked the biggest idiots to head up the inside job! They can't remember what we told them, then they got it all confused and attacked Afghanistan instead of Iraq which was the original plan them bumbling fools.

 

LOL. Good point, debunked. You'd think the masterminds could rattle off answers to every possible question. You'd think that rumsfeld/bush having some confusion would actually allay the conspiracy talk. BDS knows no logical bounds.

 

I don't think anyone with any sense in their head actually believe Saddam had ties with 9/11, especially when there is no proof.

 

Who said that Saddam had direct ties with 9/11?

 

well, I was going to respond, but looks like Lorien and Debunked have already handed it to all the conspiracy theory nutjobs...now where is GTech with that chili??

 

41% of the dumbasses questioned in the Newsweek poll did mate, check question 6.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19375611/site/newsweek

11% even think that Osama Bin Laden has been tracked down and captured by the United States?

 

LMFAO d16man votes in the incorrect box right on que!!

 

whats laughable is that you keep going on about the central core being the main load bearing section, when in fact the outer walls were the main load bearing sections of WTC 1 and WTC 2 and they held most of the load of the buildings and all of the wind load.

As the planes took out 2/3's of the outer load bearing wall, collapse was just a matter of time, whether or not the central core was damaged.

As to the physics lucozade111 what way did you expect it to fall? UP!