And *I'M* a racist?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by chulium, Jun 22, 2007.

  1. BlueDevilMedia

    BlueDevilMedia Well-Known Member

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    #141
    I like women of all colors!
     
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  2. DevilHellz

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    #142
    Uhm, we never had these kinds of contracts as far as i know. You are allowed to date whoever you want.
     
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    ahkip Prominent Member

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    #143
    Is that personal observation, general stereotype or statistics from the government?
     
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    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #144
    Personal and very honest observation. I live in quite a crappy area, and i see what is going on in the streets every day.
    It's getting dangerous to go outside in the evening, because the youth always walks in groups of like 10 people. I'll give it 5 more years till we'll see gangs starting to grow up.
    7 years or so like that it wasn't like that, my area became popular to Ethiopians in the past few years, and now it's almost a black neighborhood.
    There ARE good black people here i believe, but they are a RARITY sadly.
    I have respect for the black elders, as they do behave like people - but i cannot stand the youth here. They are uneducated hooligans, as sad as it is.
     
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  5. hmansfield

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    #145
    This is the dumbest thread I have ever seen.
    Nobody really has a point, it's just going around and around in pointless obscurity.

    #1. The double standard is in the media, most people in America don't consider one more acceptable than the other.

    #2. Viacom fired Don Imus, yet still runs Bad Rap Videos on MTV. They are salesman. They are selling sensationalism. And you are buying into it. That is not the world. Its a media and "entertainment " company.

    #3. NAACP, UNCF, and 1000's of other "minority" organizations exist for, American Indian, Asian, Americans, Mexican, Americans, Cuban, Americans, Jewish Americans, 1000's of Church and religious charities, and so on, ...because it is not all fair an equal in the U.S. and there are some "whites" in America who feel an obligation to protect "their race" what ever that is. I have still never seen a country called 'Whitia", but here is an America and you can start what ever group or charity that you want to give anybody a hand up in this world.

    Not only that, but what is wrong with having an organization that helps people out that need it? Isn't that what we are supposed to be about? So because its a Jewish Organization, of a Black organization it's racists? Poppycock!

    #4. There are many organizations that deal with every facets of society that are created to help people, AIDS, Hunger, Employment training, Education, Downs Syndrome, The Shriners, St Jude's, American Cancer Society, And so on, and so on, but no one calls them racist against people without cancer, and debilitations.

    It just goes to show that not much has changed. For some reason if it's "black" its always a bunch of:

    "Why are they doing that?", "Why are they saying that?", "Why do they get that?"

    It just goes to show that legally things may be equal, but the attitude of "us and them" is still prevalent in peoples mind. and as long as Americans think of each other like that, then these organizations will continue to exist.
    It's not racists, its just people looking out for each other because they KNOW, the reality of the situation. whether it be economics, lack of government funding, race , religion, what ever.

    Plain and simple, things are not fair and equal in America, the attitudes of some Americans will never go away.

    Trust me...if there were no United Negro College Fund, the first thing out of some idiots mind would be:
    "Why can't they do something to help themselves?"
    When it comes to racists attitudes, it's a no win situation no matter what you do.
    Most people just move on and tackle what they can change, and not dwell on the negatives.

    JMO
     
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  6. debunked

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    #146
    Did you totally miss the OP's reasoning??? Please don't tell me you could not understand what he was saying..

    Simply put, he is white and could not start a white person college fund without people accusing and sueing him for racism, yet any other race can.

    Do you get it yet?

    Probably not.... sad
     
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  7. hmansfield

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    #147
    Yeah I do get it, and it's dumb!
    Every college fund and scholarship is a white college fund.
    When did white people in America start getting discriminated against, denied admissions, and prevented from opportunity?
    What.... does he feel left out that he white people didn't have to go through 400 years of slavery and oppression, discrimination, no voting rights, or civil rights.?
    It's the dumbest thing that I have heard, and I have heard more than one white person say it over the last 20 years.
    You can start what ever organization that you want.
    No body cares.
    You will get laughed at, because even other white people will look at you like you are stupid.
    Go to a college campus and look around...Do you really think there is a need for a White College fund?
    There are college funds for every group in this country, because it has been traditionally been a problem.
    People don't just get together just to separate themselves.
    'Necessity is the mother of invention.

    I wouldn't care if you started a "Young white males, preparing for a race war college fund".
    I won't call you a racists, because I could care less. neither would most people.
     
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  8. DeniseJ

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    #148
    Every college fund and scholarship opportunity is NOT a "white college" fund. No, I am not saying that to advocate the creation of a white college fund but I am saying there are plenty of opportunities for minority students to pay for college.

    In fact, I write about them every day! There are opportunities for minority students if you just look.
     
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  9. debunked

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    #149
    I feel like I was talking to a wall there.... I agree with you that there is no need, but the lameness of groups that keep racism going by being race exclusive that are prominent in America.

    At least my wife, kids and I are all mutts enough to get one form of grant or another.... my kids will need the help because I am not making enough to send 6 to collage. (spelled that way to impress a particular collage grad.)
     
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  10. hmansfield

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    #150
    It's not lame and it's not racists!
    Are the Mormon, Jewish, Baptist, Catholic, Protestant, Mexican, Cuban, Native American, Greek, Korean, Filipino, Chinese, Veterans, and Muslim, scholarship funds racists?
    Then why is the "Black" one racists, and separatists?

    Would you walk into a Greek Orthodox church, and say that all of their programs to help out Greek Orthodox members are racists against everyone who is not Greek Orthodox?
    I don't see why anyone can't start any charity they want to help out any one they want to help?
    If we didn't have charities and help groups, then the same people who complain, (although I really don't understand the point) would say, "Somebody should do something."
    yet the same people will step over a homeless person on the street.

    It would be nice if everything was all "Hunkey Dorry" ..but it is not.

    Maybe in 100 years we will get past this, "They" mentality that we have in this country, but the bottom line is...it's their money, and they can do what ever they want with it.

    They are under no obligation to please anyone.
    If anything we need more charitable groups.

    Ir you really want to do something, go to some of the poorer areas of the country, where the economy is crap, and you can help all the white students that you want go to college. New Orleans, Buffalo, Gary,just to name a few. Believe me, its an economic issue, not a race issue, and stop trying to make it one.

    No one is stopping you, and they would welcome the help.

    Well.... why are you still sitting there? Stop bitching about other charities, and start your own to help the people that are closest to Your heart.

    I actually wish someone would start a "white " college fund, and get some of the backwoods , hicks out of the swamps and militias and send them to a University where they can not only learn something besides racism and apathy, but discover that it's a big world , and it doesn't revolve around that rhetoric that they learned from the neighborhood, or daddy.

    More education, less racists.
    So I agree , it is a good idea.
    Start one.
     
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  11. lorien1973

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    #151
    every scholarship discriminates on some basis. some are only open to flute players; some are only open to swimmers; some are only open to midwestern farmers who raise chickens, etc. I don't see what the big deal is, really.
     
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    #152
    By what you just wrote, I don't think you know what 'race' or 'racism' is.

    clue: religions are not races
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #153
    I thought you conservative guys were all against government programs?
     
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    #154
    I agree, but what I think is out of whack is the notion that any group made of white is singled out as racist. Even republican college groups are called racist. Funny thing is when they interview the guys heading up the group and some are black, kind of takes the hot air out of the accusers balloon.

    One poster said that racism is only in America. The funny thing is the 'racism' they have in other countries is not so much race but shades. The lighter the skin - the higher your class. Or in countries where it is just a bloodline that separates two groups that kill each other. It seems that hatred and evil is present from birth.
     
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    #155
    Private grants are not gov't funds BTW.

    Yes, I do think we should kill almost all gov't programs. Could you image what the private sector could do with the same money. We employ so many non-producing people in the government.
     
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    #156
    That's kinda the point, though, isn't it? Racism is just a word thrown around like a water balloon. It doesn't mean anything anymore because its lobbed out there anytime someone needs attention.

    I dunno why so much time is spent worrying about it. So what if some scholarships are only given to blacks or eskimos or whatever. Who cares. You aren't going to get one. You aren't going to get a different one if you can't play the flute either.

    I think its silly that some things are given out based upon things you have no control over and they should be merit based; but its such a trivial non-issue.

    To the original posters' point. Isn't 'pride' a sin anyways? I have no sense of 'pride' that I'm white. Just as I'm not proud that my eyes are hazel or my hair is brown. I have no control over any of this. Actions/results make you proud of what you've done.

    I think the focus is backwards, but making an issue out of it? Meh.
     
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    #157
    There is an repubilcan group at my school and they are not labeled as racist. It may depend on the school, which college/ university is you talking about?


    That is the same thing as racism, you can read about how some countries in South America are like that, and it is also from European colonialism.

    Now about the bloodline bit, that is often from some long time ancestral grudge
     
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    #158
    Believe me I have been called "Nigger" and "boy" enough times in my life to know what racism is. I probably know more than anyone posting in this thread.
     
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    #159
    lol, you think your 6 kids are going to get scholarships? more like pell grants
     
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    how condescending, ferret.

    the sheer number of scholarships out there make them so easy to get. my friend in high school was a completely average student and got his college almost paid for by scholarships. He just had to apply to enough of them to get it paid for.
     
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