SEO without Link Building

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by mansec, Jun 19, 2007.

  1. Gomeza

    Gomeza Well-Known Member

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    #21
    Hi mansec

    I'm always leery of those who imply that they have re-invented the wheel pertaining to SEO and I think that your concerns are well founded. Traditional or "classic" SEO strategies entail an effort of keyword rich content in conjunction with a link building stategy. Optimizing a web site for search engine ranking is only a portion of the battle. Clean and technically sound web page structures, the use of robots.txt files and sitemaps are minimum standards, which only insure that search engine spiders will be able to crawl your site. Having them find your web site via carefully placed text links or "spider bait" is a strategy that can never be adequately replaced by any other methods. Where some people believe that Pay Per Click campaigns can usurp the need for some of the tradititional SEO strategies, ROI is greatly enhanced by careful consideration and an effort to capitolize on organic search at the same time. Despite what some "professionals" may claim, there will always be query mediums (search engines) and the need to optimize one's web presence for favourable treatment by those mediums.
     
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  2. mansec

    mansec Peon

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    #22
    He is not using any type of link building not either directory submissions.
     
    mansec, Jun 20, 2007 IP
  3. mansec

    mansec Peon

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    #23
    He is going to develop content and RSS according the needs of project but anti with any link building:(
     
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  4. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    #24
    Then you'll have a nicly optimised website that nobody will see.
     
    MattUK, Jun 20, 2007 IP
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  5. Sepehr

    Sepehr Peon

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    #25
    exactly...!
     
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  6. Taal

    Taal Peon

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    #26
    You can SEO without link building if the keywords you are targetting are very niche and specific. Otherwise, if you're going for a big term, you won't get very far without links.
     
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  7. Lee Rees

    Lee Rees Peon

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    #27
    I would say personally that content and optimisation are the most important in SEO, its very important to have a highly optimised site, i.e. dynamic meta tags, static urls, keyword relevancy. Basically the only text that should be on the site is content, for example a post reply button would be an image rather than text seting "post reply"

    I found that my highly optimized forum got to number 2 in google for its main keywords after only 4 weeks. It only has about 100 backlinks and 300 posts.
     
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  8. Sepehr

    Sepehr Peon

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    #28
    that's true but this guy doesn't care about content either:
     
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  9. vipvanlines

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    #29
    well,
    i think in seo u should include all..
    links...
    content...
    forums...
    quality..
    etc.

    liran.
     
    vipvanlines, Jun 20, 2007 IP
  10. supamanjon

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    #30
    No Link building = no ranking for your site
     
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  11. dL03

    dL03 Banned

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    #31
    The link building process needs to be given high priority in doing seo for your site to get a high rank. Since link building takes time, the sooner you start the better.
     
    dL03, Jun 20, 2007 IP
  12. kelsheikh

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    #32
    Link building is very important. I think every search engine has showed and explained the need for links. High quality relevant links increase your PR and ranking in Google, while engines like Yahoo and MSN use inbound links to decide popularity in their algorithm. Although no one can say for sure how sites are ranked, there is one obvious logical answer. If neither of these engines can find your site because you dont have links, you wont rank for anything.
     
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  13. funkymario

    funkymario Notable Member

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    #33
    Seo is Link building.
     
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  14. nusuni

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    #34
    It is very possible to do SEO without link building, I've been doing it with my blog for a while now. One thing that is killing it is I SUCK at link building, but I'm good at all the other stuff ;) , and I definitely regret not taking it more seriously until now.
     
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  15. funkymario

    funkymario Notable Member

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    #35
    okey good luck ranking for Viagra, Free online games, online casinos, Toys.. without link building, please dont give Advices to people unless you really know what you are talking about, there is a huge difference between a personal blog and a A Serious Business competing in Billion Dollars industries.
     
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  16. nusuni

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    #36
    He asked for an opinion, "Please share your views." so I gave an opinion, and where the heck did you get "viagra" and crap from? As far as I can tell they never said what type of site it was.

    Just a side note to the OP: If an SEO says they dislike link building they are probably doing Black Hat techniques, which can be a bit risky if you get caught.
     
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  17. funkymario

    funkymario Notable Member

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    #37
    Am too old to fight with newbies about stuff they dont know about yet. :D take the time to learn first then you can come and discuss SEO here. nothing personal :) everybody on digitalpoint hates when someone gives BS advices, oh and BH is also about Link Building they just prefere to call it Link spamming.
     
    funkymario, Jun 20, 2007 IP
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    temyong Banned

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    #38
    Yeah, And link building is other way of promotion of your site.
     
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  19. Winagain

    Winagain Well-Known Member

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    #39
    Just what I wanted to say. :D
    Yes, you can optimise a page and even use some black hat techniques that would help you get some good (even if short lived) results.

    If you want long lived results for your site, learn how to get back links yourself. It will be more rewarding in the long run

     
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  20. mansec

    mansec Peon

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    #40
    Thanks for everybody who responded!!:D
    I have decided to go with someone who works equally on Link Building.
     
    mansec, Jun 21, 2007 IP