A possible feature of QBC - Directory's PR dropped 2 or 3 points on next update

Discussion in 'Directories' started by xc06, Jun 16, 2007.

  1. khushal

    khushal Well-Known Member

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    #21
    If he was not promoting the website at will after selling of long term links than he for sure is a QBC but if he was promoting the directory even after the sale and finding ways to get it traffic, but for some reason (which only the Internet Paapa G knows) if his PR drop's 1 or 2 points than he can't be termed as a QBC. anyways this is just my thinking!!! opinions on this topic will differ maybe when others speak about it!
     
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  2. malcolm1

    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    #22
    Hello..

    Well i must say that buying a dropped domain does have its advantages
    to an extent as www.lastlone.com was a domain that was just being
    redirected by the origanal webmaster and it had a PR5 when i purchased it...
    then at PR update it dropped to PR4 and i did do some link buying but not much
    as i was to busy building others so...

    I dont consider that being a bad thing as i build for the future and dont go
    publicly go trying to trick anyone into purchasing links so...

    thx
    malcolm
     
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    #23
    On the last update I had 3 of my new sites hit PR4 with minimum link building so I would say there is really no advantage to buying a dropped domain unless you want the name itself. And it also depends on how you use the domain, obviously you did not have fraudulent intent.
     
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    #24
    In many cases, I would have to agree on this. There are however people who buy high PR domain and promote the site later on.

    I would be very careful to buy a link on an expired domain, but ultimately, it depends on how the owner is going to promote the site. Even a unique domain means nothing if there is no promotion going on.
     
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  5. humm

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    #25

    Yes that is surely happening but.. by the next PR update that minimum link building doesn't work anymore.

    And often if someone is smart he/she will surely check out the backlinks the directory has.

    But yes this new issue is quite serious. Maybe someone needs to go and spoil the sales thread of such losers!
     
    humm, Jun 17, 2007 IP
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    kiviniar Notable Member

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    #26
    http://www.umdum.com/ dropped from a 6 to a 4

    Now thats definetely not a QBC, google sure has mysterious ways to grade and this update i have seen a lot of established dirs loose PRs.

    Like i said the QBC is being blown out of proportion and one needs to redo the definition to see that no legit business is getting harmed

    A PR drop is in no way a reason to brand a business a QBC

    Just my 2 cents
     
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    #27
    This is true, and it can often happen when a website increases its page count. PR gets more and more diluted across the website, so if backlinks (and backlink strength) remain constant, you can expect a lower PR for the main page.

    This is likely to happen to any web directory that expands and adds considerably more subcategories, something that's not at all unlikely with a successful directory.
     
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  8. mikey1090

    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #28
    Members of the QBC do not buy PR7 links. Thats not how to get a quick buck.

    They go straight to domain sellers, and buy a 1 day old PR5 domain.

    But yes, they will be in trouble soon when all their dropped domains fall to PR0, and all us hard working directory owners stand out for having the higher PR real keyword rich domains.
     
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  9. The Pheonix

    The Pheonix Banned

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    #29
    Best way to deal with this so called QBC is for a legit directory to ignore it and dissasociate posting on threads containing it.

    my 2 cents.
     
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  10. iPod

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    #30
    In my opinion, QBC's usually don't buy a single link. Probably they will just link their new directory from their own existing sites and that would be it.

    QBC's will only brag a lot about their site and then vanish into thin air...so does their directory.

    As for the dropped domains, i won't totally agree. Yes may do the thing you are talking about. But there are always few exception. Some buy a PR5 domain and work hard to get PR6 or 7 or even more. Depends on a serious directory owner and QBC! :)
     
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    #31
    PR7 hard links are hard to get!

    If you are going to get a PR7 link ,it should be only from a directory as it would

    be more beneficial than a link from a non directory site!
     
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    #32
    Can't agree more --:) -it depends on the owner. Suppose Malcolm buys the domain --and I'll be happy to be associated with his site as I know who malcolm is:cool:
    But on the other-hand if there is some one claiming to have a PR5/6 directory and bragging about it without any innerpage PRs --then well --I will be on 100% alert and will not associate my self with that site.

    I determine quality of a site in two way (when I go to link sales section)

    1) The site in question should have some sort of innerpage PR--no matter what.

    2) I use Rob's tool that always fetches me all the info I need about a site in a second.
     
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    #33
    "A PR drop is in no way a reason to brand a business a QBC" - I agree, I am refering only to dropped domains that advertised as PRX then drop down on the next update or two.

    - Sounds like another myth to me.
     
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  14. khushal

    khushal Well-Known Member

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    #34
    But you know what humm? Doing so will end you in RED bloods from the QBC's and company! But than again, someone has to take the initiative right?
     
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    #35
    Could someone enlighten me here on what's the difference with a NEW domain and a DROPPED domain.

    It seems that a new domain is very hard to promote is that it ? I have not done buying a dropped domain yet but if someone is willing to convince me of the advantage of it then please....

    New Domain > www(dot)domain(dot)com > promote (Hard Work) = PR +Success

    Dropped Domain > www(dot)dropped(com) > promote ( huh ? ) = PR ? + ?

    Am I missing something here ? Seems those who buy dropped domains want to look good in the FRONT PAGE so the big boys can SUBMIT to the Site ? Is that the modus operandi. Cause in my opinion that is DECEPTION. Why not start from the beginning and promote ? PLEASE..... Tell me.......

    I understand if buying an existing website with PR and thats OK. LINKBOOK bought with PR4 and look at the promotion made and inner PR. :eek:

    Make an immediate cash from the dropped domain and say Promoting it throw 2 PR5 and 6 ? I guess its like frying me in my own cooking oil. :eek:

    Ahhh well....
     
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    khushal Well-Known Member

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    #36
    Linkbook is a good example in this regard... i myself am not against buying a dropped domain unless or until you dont tell others or boast off about the PR it has!!! You should clearly mention that i am using a dropped domain with a PR and no PR on the subpages but than prove it to others with your hardwork how well you did in sustaining that PR.... am sure sucess will be all your way!~
     
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    #37
    I already do it from time to time -- but tactfully. I just post on link sales thread --

    " If your site has some sort of inner-page PR then please send me the URL" --I hope my statement makes others also question about the validity of the links:D
     
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    #38
    At least those who have those kind of sites should promote them first before putting in market this way its a win win situation for both camps. Funny is some put it in market first and neglects the promotion after the cash has been HARVESTED. :eek:

    Promotion is WHAT ? Buyers just suffers. :eek:
     
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    #39
    Just need a clarification here Jude
    You remember "Top Directory List"

    It's a PR5 domain. I bought this domain for pretty good amount. I got a theme specially designed for this directory, specially keeping in view the number of categories and the quality a directory should have. I'm building links for it. Haven't announced it yet, but had plans to announce it sooner.

    Now buying a already PR5 domain, would that make me a QBC :eek:
    Coz what's discussed above in last posts, i think that makes this directory and me a member of QBC :(
     
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    #40
    Actually ipod for CLARIFICATION that is waaaaaaaaayyyyy a gentleman you are you BUILD the SITE before it goes to ANNOUNCEMENT which is WAY OFF of being a QBC. Thats how to do it. I'm Reffering to Jacks who ANNOUNCE First to make cash before building and promotion.
     
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